January 17, 200917 yr Obama's mother was bit of a hippie. I doubt that he ever knew the simple joy of opening a genuine Daisy Red Ryder BB gun for Christmas. :lol: But, he grew up surfing, swimming, and living an All-American life :lol: Not every All-American life involved a Daisy Red Ryder BB Gun...I'll bet he never made a snowman as a child either.:sssh:
January 17, 200917 yr But, he grew up surfing, swimming, and living an All-American life :lol: Not every All-American life involved a Daisy Red Ryder BB Gun...I'll bet he never made a snowman as a child either.:sssh:Not every All-American life involved hanging out with communist poets either.
January 17, 200917 yr Not every All-American life involved hanging out with communist poets either. In the late 60's and early 70's....I doubt he was hanging on their every word.
January 17, 200917 yr In the late 60's and early 70's....I doubt he was hanging on their every word.He seems to have the "spreading the wealth" mantra down pretty well. I guess things could have been worse. His mom could have hung out with those SLA nuts. (But then again, he would probably not have turned out so anti-gun either.)
January 17, 200917 yr RowdyRedRam, Who do you think should have guns? Should we disarm our military? I am not being a smart aleck- I am actually curious to hear your answer. Who are the only people who should have guns? I would be fine with military and police. Let me reiterate that this is my "perfect world" scenario, I don't believe that there is, in anyway, the political will or the realistic possibility to achieve such a world. With that said I don't typically support this type of legislation.
January 17, 200917 yr He seems to have the "spreading the wealth" mantra down pretty well. I guess things could have been worse. His mom could have hung out with those SLA nuts. (But then again, he would probably not have turned out so anti-gun either.)I much prefer the "spread the wealth" mantra to the "grow the wealth gap" reality we've been witness to the last decade.
January 17, 200917 yr But, he grew up surfing, swimming, and living an All-American life :lol: Not every All-American life involved a Daisy Red Ryder BB Gun...I'll bet he never made a snowman as a child either.:sssh: When I was a kid I could only watch Howdy Duty and Roy Rogers on tv. Howdy Duty wasn't really that funny ,but Roy had a horse, a dog , a wife , and a gun. At that time it didn't get more All- American than that !:lol:
January 17, 200917 yr I much prefer the "spread the wealth" mantra to the "grow the wealth gap" reality we've been witness to the last decade.Yes, that system certainly seems to have done wonders for the working men and women of North Korea, Venezuela, and Cuba. Hugo Chavez is now begging the big oil companies to come back after nationalizing most of Venezuela's oil fields. Socialism is great until it is given time to work its "magic."
January 17, 200917 yr I don't like guns. I don't like that my "Jerry Springer guest" like neighbors in the apartment might have them, I don't like that the guy riding my tail on the highway may have one, I don't even really like the thought that you (yeah you) have one. I don't see where I would feel comfortable with the aftermath of killing someone with a weapon. I don't really see the need that I should one. I concern myself with how guns are a hobby culture. And in nearly every hobby culture that has element of danger to, the participants of the hobby like to test the boundaries of that danger, and in may cases to a lethal conclusion. In my perfect world we don't have guns. I wouldn't mind the second amendment getting repealed, but I do respect that it is part of our constitution and I respect the argument that those have who defend it. In other words I don't like guns but I can agree with your arguement not to get rid of them. However, I don't like this legislation proposal. I agree with those that question what this bill actually does for the good of the nation. I also question whether this should even be a topic of discussion as it is merely the assumption that this bill will be brought up again. I really just think this is the right trying to bring up the few fights they can still win, they are losing ground on nearly every other front. Obama has not made focus on these unwinnable ideological battlefronts, he's talking economy. You should actually educate yourself on how guns are used as hobbies before making such ridiculous statements.
January 17, 200917 yr You just missed them is all. "Seems reasonable" "Seems logical" "Couldn't hurt" "Might help deter crime" "Don't want criminals to have guns" Still to be decided: How this new law helps reduce/deter crime. How this new law will keep guns out of criminals' hands. Why the Brady background checks are not sufficient. All the posters that made those comments are the ones I am looking to answer my questions. If it sounds logical the great, why? What would this accomplish?
January 17, 200917 yr I much prefer the "spread the wealth" mantra to the "grow the wealth gap" reality we've been witness to the last decade. :thumb:
January 17, 200917 yr You should actually educate yourself on how guns are used as hobbies before making such ridiculous statements.I have the education of my experiences. Most every gun enthusiast I hear tale tails also has a "I did something really stupid story" to go along with it. This is common in every hobby particularly the dangerous kind. People get a rush from the danger, the more they participate in the activity the more danger is needed to recreate that rush and then begin to test the bounds.
January 17, 200917 yr I have the education of my experiences. Most every gun enthusiast I hear tale tails also has a "I did something really stupid story" to go along with it. This is common in every hobby particularly the dangerous kind. People get a rush from the danger, the more they participate in the activity the more danger is needed to recreate that rush and then begin to test the bounds. Based on your thinking we should also ban cars, beer and cigs as they kill far more people than guns. Guns have helped to protect your right of free speech. I am quite sure there are already laws in place to cover the stupid behavior of the ones you know. Enforce the laws we have already. Why is it when something happens, some want to pass a law, instead of enforcing the ones already on the books. But then you wish to eliminate a freedom. After repealing the 2nd Amendment, it will then be easier to repeal the 1st, the 3rd, the 4th, the.., well you get it, I hope.
January 17, 200917 yr I much prefer the "spread the wealth" mantra to the "grow the wealth gap" reality we've been witness to the last decade. You do realize that wealth or capitol is not and can not be produced by government, right? In order to " spread the wealth ", it has to be confiscated from those who produce and given to those who do not. Government can not and has never produced anything. Careful what you wish for. Maybe one day you will actually realize all the great conveniences we enjoy in this country came about due to the incentive to make a profit.
January 17, 200917 yr I have the education of my experiences. Most every gun enthusiast I hear tale tails also has a "I did something really stupid story" to go along with it. This is common in every hobby particularly the dangerous kind. People get a rush from the danger, the more they participate in the activity the more danger is needed to recreate that rush and then begin to test the bounds. So the ones you know are idiots and that automatically makes ever other one an idiot.
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