I guess I'm most surprised that in this day and age, there are those sorts of crowds at all. In the McCain footage, it was pretty much an entire audience of angry people. Many were unjustifiably angry, and some were angry because of misinformation they choose to believe, despite evidence to the contrary (the woman who beleives Obama is an Arab, for instance).

 

I don't think that there are angry mobs all over America. But it does concern me that there are people who are this angry.

People are not unjustifiably angry. We are honestly in danger of descending into a depression and the man leading in the polls is promising punitive tax increases on the people who create jobs in this country.

 

My employer's largest client cut its IT budget by 75% (effective tomorrow morning) in response to the current crisis, which IMO, was caused by political corruption and the allies of thuggish organizations like ACORN. Banks no longer trust banks and companies across the nation are instituting draconian measures to ensure their survival.

 

I am angry and I feel totally justified in my anger. If I wake up unemployed on Nov. 5 with a socialist bent on redistributing the wealth instead of restoring confidence in what has been the most successful economy in the history of the world, then I will be even more angry. However, that anger will not result in any violence or property destruction.

 

Every American should be angry at what is happening to this country. Those who are not already angry will become angry when the economic crisis threatens their own financial security. For me, that threat hit home on Friday during a mandatory employee meeting with the owner of the company that employees me. The company has been in business 30 years and is now facing the worst financial crisis in its history. I blame Washington and regret that a Washington outsider is not at the top of either ticket.

People are not unjustifiably angry. We are honestly in danger of descending into a depression and the man leading in the polls is promising punitive tax increases on the people who create jobs in this country.

 

My employer's largest client cut its IT budget by 75% (effective tomorrow morning) in response to the current crisis, which IMO, was caused by political corruption and the allies of thuggish organizations like ACORN. Banks no longer trust banks and companies across the nation are instituting draconian measures to ensure their survival.

 

I am angry and I feel totally justified in my anger. If I wake up unemployed on Nov. 5 with a socialist bent on redistributing the wealth instead of restoring confidence in what has been the most successful economy in the history of the world, then I will be even more angry. However, that anger will not result in any violence or property destruction.

 

Every American should be angry at what is happening to this country. Those who are not already angry will become angry when the economic crisis threatens their own financial security. For me, that threat hit home on Friday during a mandatory employee meeting with the owner of the company that employees me. The company has been in business 30 years and is now facing the worst financial crisis in its history. I blame Washington and regret that a Washington outsider is not at the top of either ticket.

 

 

That's not the anger I'm speaking of. I'm speaking of those who are furious that Obama is an "Arab", a "Muslim", a "terrorist". THAT's the anger I'm speaking of. The issue you outline above is legitimate. But since that's not what the thread topic was, I was simply addressing the (IMO) unjustified anger.

That's not the anger I'm speaking of. I'm speaking of those who are furious that Obama is an "Arab", a "Muslim", a "terrorist". THAT's the anger I'm speaking of. The issue you outline above is legitimate. But since that's not what the thread topic was, I was simply addressing the (IMO) unjustified anger.

The topic deals with an attempt to portray McCain supporters as an angrier lot than supporters of Obama. There is no evidence that is true and picking out a handful of examples of irrational shouting is simply an attempt to pressure McCain and Palin into throwing in the towel early by refraining from making very valid attacks on Obama's record.

 

The pressure seems to be getting to McCain. Thankfully, Palin is not easily intimidated.

So, because ONE minister delivering an invocation in Iowa means that McCain supporters or even McCain thinks individuals who want Obama to win direct their prayers to Allah? Come on Habib, that's about as thin as it gets.

 

No, RTS. My contention since the very beginning of this thread (and even before) is since the McCain/Palin campaign has adopted the not so subtle "Obama doesn't see America as you and I do" so he "pals around with terrorist" rhetoric it has given credence to the people who think Obama is a closet Muslim/Arab/terrorist. This is all stuff from the last week and a half, coinciding with the beginning of the rhetoric. When you have to defend your opponent at your own rallies as your audience is scared of an Obama Presidency because "he's an Arab" and not because he's a liberal, then it's pretty clear where your message is. And the whole "this is just liberal smearing propagated by desperate liberals" doesn't work with me.

The topic deals with an attempt to portray McCain supporters as an angrier lot than supporters of Obama. There is no evidence that is true and picking out a handful of examples of irrational shouting is simply an attempt to pressure McCain and Palin into throwing in the towel early by refraining from making very valid attacks on Obama's record.

 

The pressure seems to be getting to McCain. Thankfully, Palin is not easily intimidated.

 

My apologies, as I've read the thread, I thought the topic was about the attendees of the rallies as apparent irrationals.

My apologies, as I've read the thread, I thought the topic was about the attendees of the rallies as apparent irrationals.

Obviously, you were mistaken. The topic is about apparently irrational McCain supporters, whose irrationality is due to the aggressive attacks Sarah Palin has made on Obama's record and positions. We are supposed to take for granted that there are no irrational outbursts at Obama rallies.

 

My characterization of the thread was accurate, IMO. It is an attempt to paint McCain supporters as angrier than Obama supporters by taking a small number of incidents and associating them with tens of thousands of rally attendees and to blame Sarah Palin for exciting the Republican base in a "bad" way.

Obviously, you were mistaken. The topic is about apparently irrational McCain supporters, whose irrationality is due to the aggressive attacks Sarah Palin has made on Obama's record and positions. We are supposed to take for granted that there are no irrational outbursts at Obama rallies. My characterization of the thread was accurate, IMO. It is an attempt to paint McCain supporters as angrier than Obama supporters by taking a small number of incidents and associate them with thousands of rally attendees and to blame Sarah Palin for exciting the Republican base in a "bad" way.

 

 

Hence my apology.

 

No need to (yet again) tell me how you are right and I am wrong. It's quite apparent that you are not only intellectually superior to me, but that I apparently am unable to even discern the subject of a conversation.

 

I'll be happy to flog myself it that would satisfy your need to see me punished. :lol: I'm much prefer to just take my punishment and move on, than to be constantly berated. :lol:

Hence my apology.

 

No need to (yet again) tell me how you are right and I am wrong. It's quite apparent that you are not only intellectually superior to me, but that I apparently am unable to even discern the subject of a conversation.

 

I'll be happy to flog myself it that would satisfy your need to see me punished. :lol: I'm much prefer to just take my punishment and move on, than to be constantly berated. :lol:

:thumb: Apology accepted. (No flogging necessary.)

After reading through this thread, I think we all need to take a deep breath.