September 16, 200817 yr Author Pretty sure this isn't a Pro-McCain article.... Actually, you make me think of a good point. There aren't really any pro-McCain threads or pro-Obama threads in this forum. They're either anti-McCain or anti-Obama.
September 16, 200817 yr Palin has been a small-town mayor and a governor for less than two years. Obama has been a state legislator and a United States Senator since January 2005 ... in both cases, I suspect, representing many more people as an elected official than Palin. I'm not disparaging Palin's accomplishments by any means. I just don't understand how that makes her more accomplished than Obama. Palin also served for a year as the chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, which led to her decision to run for governor. She blew the whistle on another member of the commission, who happened to be the state's GOP chairman. When Governor Murkowski failed to back her up, she resigned, lodged a formal complaint that resulted in a $12,000 fine against the GOP chairman and the resignation of Alaska's Attorney General. Palin's stratospheric job approval ratings are often mentioned by the media but what is not mentioned is that she enjoys a 75 percent approval rating among Democrats. The Obama campaign's attempt to portray Palin as a far right wing nut job is the most dishonest and desperate attempts to discredit a candidate that I have ever witnessed.
September 17, 200817 yr Actually, you make me think of a good point. There aren't really any pro-McCain threads or pro-Obama threads in this forum. They're either anti-McCain or anti-Obama. I was going to say that no one is that excited about either candidate (which is partially true) but the real thing is, that LN is too busy defending McCain in other threads, and the Obamites are too busy defending him in other threads. :lol: Hmm, maybe that's a problem?
September 17, 200817 yr The Obama campaign's attempt to portray Palin as a far right wing nut job is the most dishonest and desperate attempts to discredit a candidate that I have ever witnessed.The left-wing blogs and some media, perhaps, but I don't see the Obama campaign doing it.
September 17, 200817 yr The left-wing blogs and some media, perhaps, but I don't see the Obama campaign doing it. As usual, your eagerness to blast Obama causes you to try and pin everything on him. Obama belittled Palin by initially ignoring the fact that she is a governor and comparing her executive experience as the mayor of a small town with 50 employees to his executive experience of running for president. Of course, the budget of Alaska dwarfs the one for the Obama campaign but Obama never lets the facts get in the way of a good political shot. Anybody who does nto believe that the extremely well financed left wing blogs, particularly the Daily Kos (host of a Democratic presidential debate) and MoveOn.org are not working in an organized way to elect Barack Obama is ignoring the obvious. The web sites are not nickel and dime operations being run out of some guy's basement.
September 17, 200817 yr Obama belittled Palin by initially ignoring the fact that she is a governor and comparing her executive experience as the mayor of a small town with 50 employees to his executive experience of running for president. Of course, the budget of Alaska dwarfs the one for the Obama campaign but Obama never lets the facts get in the way of a good political shot.The Obama campaign criticized her experience (or lack thereof), yes. That doesn't mean they were painting her as "a right wing nut job" as you claimed. The right is acting like Chicken Little when it comes to Obama's campaign, especially where Palin is concerned. Anybody who does nto believe that the extremely well financed left wing blogs, particularly the Daily Kos (host of a Democratic presidential debate) and MoveOn.org are not working in an organized way to elect Barack Obama is ignoring the obvious. The web sites are not nickel and dime operations being run out of some guy's basement.You can try to tie them together all you want, but the Daily Kos and MoveOn.org aren't official arms of the Obama campaign. And whatever they're doing in terms of criticism (some of it well over the top), it's certainly being matched on the right.
September 17, 200817 yr The Obama campaign criticized her experience (or lack thereof), yes. That doesn't mean they were painting her as "a right wing nut job" as you claimed. You can try to tie them together all you want, but the Daily Kos and MoveOn.org aren't official arms of the Obama campaign. And whatever they're doing, it's certainly being matched on the right. :lol: Sure. I cannot turn the channel on the TV without seeing the media repeating some smear from a right wing blog. CNN dispatched a team of reporters to Alaska based on an unfounded smear by the Daily Kos. Where are those big well financed right wing equivalents of the Daily Kos, MoveOn.org, Media Matters, the Democratic Underground, and the Huffington Post. You know, the sites that just make stuff up that get picked up and repeated by the mainstream media?
September 17, 200817 yr :lol: Sure. I cannot turn the channel on the TV without seeing the media repeating some smear from a right wing blog. Oh, it's the "big bad media" argument again ... And again, the media and the blogs aren't the Obama campaign. You just like to think they are. CNN dispatched a team of reporters to Alaska based on an unfounded smear by the Daily Kos. Where are those big well financed right wing equivalents of the Daily Kos, MoveOn.org, Media Matters, the Democratic Underground, and the Huffington Post. You know, the sites that just make stuff up that get picked up and repeated by the mainstream media?I wouldn't know ... I don't hang out on those sites like you do.
September 17, 200817 yr Oh, it's the "big bad media" argument again ... Yes, Ed Rendell, Mark Penn, and I believe the media are extremely biased. And again, the media and the blogs aren't the Obama campaign. You just like to think they are. I wouldn't know ... I don't hang out on those sites like you do. I thought not. You use the everybody does it defense but cannot even define who "everybody" is. There are no right wing equivalents of the Daily Kos and MoveOn.org. The right wing nuts who just make stuff up are working in their parents' basements and get little attention. The popular right wing sites sites operate on a shoestring in comparison to the operations funded by George Soros and Markos Moulitsas.
September 17, 200817 yr Author The web sites are not nickel and dime operations being run out of some guy's basement. Unless it's a zit-faced college kid vying to get Palin elected to the VP spot. :lol:
September 17, 200817 yr Yes, Ed Rendell, Mark Penn, and I believe the media are extremely biased.Of course, all three of you are a little biased, too, in your own ways ... those are usually the quickest to squawk about bias. I thought not. You use the everybody does it defense but cannot even define who "everybody" is. There are no right wing equivalents of the Daily Kos and MoveOn.org. The right wing nuts who just make stuff up are working in their parents' basements and get little attention. The popular right wing sites sites operate on a shoestring in comparison to the operations funded by George Soros and Markos Moulitsas.The same ridiculous attack messages get out on both sides, regardless of the funding behind them. And frankly, way too much attention is paid to them ... on and by both sides.
September 17, 200817 yr Yes, Ed Rendell, Mark Penn, and I believe the media are extremely biased. I thought not. You use the everybody does it defense but cannot even define who "everybody" is. There are no right wing equivalents of the Daily Kos and MoveOn.org. The right wing nuts who just make stuff up are working in their parents' basements and get little attention. Or are on the New York Times' Bestseller list.
September 17, 200817 yr Or are on the New York Times Bestseller list.If Obama had received the same kind of scrutiny the first two weeks of his candidacy for president as Palin has received since her nomination, he would have been an early campaign casualty. I understand that the Obama campaign has been busy attacking the character of another critic. There seems to be a pattern emerging here. I wonder how far a President Obama would go to intimidate the media. WGN-AM again target of Obama campaign Chicago radio station WGN-AM is again coming under attack from the presidential campaign of Sen. Barack Obama for offering airtime to a controversial author. It is the second time in recent weeks the station has been the target of an "Obama Action Wire" alert to supporters of the Illinois Democrat. Monday night's target was David Freddoso, who the campaign said was scheduled to be on the station from 9 p.m. to 11 p.m. Chicago time.
September 17, 200817 yr Jerome Corsi's "The Obama Nation" is a mishmash of unsupported conjecture, half-truths, logical fallacies and outright falsehoods. Factcheck.org
September 17, 200817 yr Or are on the New York Times' Bestseller list.:lol: :lol: :lol: That deserves a high five ... or an Obama-esque fist bump.
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