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Coaching Turnover

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Well if you look objectively at the situation, a couple of questions come to mind. Why is there less attendance at boys games than girls games? Why is the Boy's State tournament played at a more elborate location than the girl's state tournament? With these two facts at hand, is there any wonder why a male coach sees boy's basketball as more of a goal than girl's basketball?

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Well if you look objectively at the situation, a couple of questions come to mind. Why is there less attendance at boys games than girls games? Why is the Boy's State tournament played at a more elborate location than the girl's state tournament? With these two facts at hand, is there any wonder why a male coach sees boy's basketball as more of a goal than girl's basketball?

 

You have got this right. But i see this as the coachs thinking more about themselves than the girls they are coaching. Just my two cents.

Well if you look objectively at the situation, a couple of questions come to mind. Why is there less attendance at boys games than girls games? Why is the Boy's State tournament played at a more elborate location than the girl's state tournament? With these two facts at hand, is there any wonder why a male coach sees boy's basketball as more of a goal than girl's basketball?

 

The reason the girls tourny is played in Bowling Green is so that one city, Lexington and Louisville(when the new bidding comes up again) don't get all the revenue from fans coming into one city, spread the so called wealth, and also whatever Rupp Arena or Freedom Hall charges to hold the tournament would be more than WKU charges the KHSAA. Their profit would be greater or loses would be less I would assume.

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What no one has mentioned is the climate that exists in the education profession that makes it much more difficult to carry out one's duties in the classroom and in the gym. Some schools - fewer and fewer - seem to make it "do-able" for a teacher/coach to handle all of the job demands, while many other schools do not, and it is not that unusual to find that the boys' coaches and girls' coaches do not always have an equal amount of classroom job description.

 

Are there any additional thoughts on this perspective out there???

Retropop you are on it!! In more and more schools coaching is not getting the respect it did in the past. I've had it said to me several times, "We are paying you 60K to teach and 6K to coach. What do you think we want you to focus on?" And the administration means it. Too many demands on coaches, players, and parents makes for stressful times and high burnout. Test scores mean more than wins and losses at most schools now, and shouldn't it?

Retropop you are on it!! In more and more schools coaching is not getting the respect it did in the past. I've had it said to me several times, "We are paying you 60K to teach and 6K to coach. What do you think we want you to focus on?" And the administration means it. Too many demands on coaches, players, and parents makes for stressful times and high burnout. Test scores mean more than wins and losses at most schools now, and shouldn't it?

 

The last line of this post is correct. But lets not forget that great coaches and teams mean so much in modeling are daughters. And teaching life lessons that they will use the rest of there lives. Such as hard work team work, social skills, learning to deal with adversity so many different things.

Do all coaches also teach at the schools?

Do all coaches also teach at the schools?

 

I dont believe so i could be wrong.

Do all coaches also teach at the schools?

 

Some do some don't. It is called a paraprofessional.

Schools are required to hire teachers for boys bball, girls bball, and football. If a school decides to hire a paraprofessional for any of these varsity positions, then they have to prove to the KHSAA that there were no teaching candidates that were qualified for the position or that there were no teaching positions available. I am almost positive that this is correct.

Most rules about who schools hire as coaches are district rules. If they have the required number of college hours (64) they are eligible to be a coach in the state of Kentucky. Some districts require certified applicants only (with a teaching certificate).

Sounds like there is alot of gray area here. :confused:

I think everything mentioned are factors in the turnover. Boys sports have been around longer, and there are more male athletes. People naturally migrate to things they are more comfortable with. Girls basketball is quite remarkable, especially at the middle school level, where you have these little five foot tall girls that can score 15 or 20 points a game, and knock down threes like they are nothing. But the only ones in the stands are the parents. A coach can't build a reputation there. While he or she may be doing a wonderful job with the kids, it's up to the individual coach to decide if he/she is content, or needs to move on.

I think its a combination of things. Demanding parents( and thats not a bad thing), LOTS of pressure to win at all costs. Coaches leaving to coach boys. One thing I think that contributes to girls coaches leaving is that they are not quite treated equal with the boys coachs in status. I dont how that translates to money, but I feel its a issue.

I think you're both correct.

 

But let's not leave out the ADMINISTRATIVE POLITICS and the "so called" influential people or "BACK OFFICE SUPPORT" that hound the school's administration :rolleyes:

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