Or, maybe they realize (correctly) that it will have no effect on the price of gasoline for years (if ever) and don't want to sell out their environmental positions by signing up to the Republicans' stupid idea.

 

Or maybe they wanted to present their even dumber idea of using the strategic reserve... A do nothing band aid. We don't need windfall taxes, we need increased supply coupled with conservation on the 25+ years journey it is going to take to get to a viable domestic renewable fuel source.

Or, maybe they realize (correctly) that it will have no effect on the price of gasoline for years (if ever) and don't want to sell out their environmental positions by signing up to the Republicans' stupid idea.

 

I like my answer better particularly since there's no way to know what will happen with the price if the increased drilling comes to pass and since evidence shows us that offshore platforms are safe and have withstood extreme conditions.

So is your argument that power players in world politics who make statements in reference to oil/energy have zero impact on market price fluctuations?

 

 

Well, obviously Bush's sabre-rattling toward Iran has not had an economically-benign effect on market prices. But there's a huge difference between implying you just might obliterate one of the world's major oil producers and trying to build political support at home for expanded drilling that would have a very minor effect on global supply in a decade or so.

Or maybe they wanted to present their even dumber idea of using the strategic reserve... A do nothing band aid. We don't need windfall taxes, we need increased supply coupled with conservation on the 25+ years journey it is going to take to get to a viable domestic renewable fuel source.

 

Honestly, I think we need a price floor under the price of crude in the U.S. to give alternative energy investors a stable economic outlook. This idea was espoused in a recent Businessweek cover story. Any effort to mitigate oil prices in the short or intermediate term only undercuts investments in technologies to replace oil in our economy. Unfortunately, no candidate is supporting that idea.

So, are you angry at Bush for taking so long to lift the redundant executive ban on offshore drilling? What about McCain for taking so long to get behind the idea? How much do you think these two acts were worth to the price of a barrel? Since it seems so certain to be a big effect, how about we say $15. That means the feet-dragging of these two has cost our economy roughly $27 billion over the past three months. :lol:

You may be unaware of this fact, but leasing additional acres of oil reserves will require an act of Congress or else it will have to wait until the current prohibition expires on September 30. Now the ball is in the Democrats court and Nancy Pelosi are still demagoguing this issue.

 

This is the one issue that could suddenly reverse Republican fortunes this fall. If McCain and the Republicans can educate the American public well enough so that they understand that it is the Democrats who are working to lock in high energy prices, then Obama's popularity will tumble.

 

To blame Bush and the Republicans for restricting domestic oil production when Reid, Pelosi, and Obama are chanting the "We can't drill our way out of this crisis!" is a real hoot. :lol:

Apparantly "The One" has heard his people.

 

Obama May Support Offshore Drilling

 

 

Is there an issue he won't flip on to score political points?

 

How many of you still believe his pledge not to raise your taxes?

Apparantly "The One" has heard his people.

 

Obama May Support Offshore Drilling

 

 

Is there an issue he won't flip on to score political points?

 

How many of you still believe his pledge not to raise your taxes?

McCain needs to go all in on this issue immediately. Obama has been drifting toward McCain's Iraq War policy for months now and everybody recognizes who has shown leadership there. McCain needs to paint Obama as a follower on oil drilling as well. The best way to do that is to continue to push for more offshore drilling and to reverse his own indefensible position on ANWR drilling.

 

To answer your question more directly. There is nothing that Obama will not say to be elected president. His credibility should be totally shot by now but the media will do its best to make voters forget his liberal voting record and the wacky positions that he took to secure the nomination.

 

I knew that it was only a matter of time before Obama decided to support offshore drilling as soon as I heard that Dick Durbin was considering flip-flopping on the issue. Obama is a follower and followers are a dime a dozen in the Washington.

And of course McCain didn't flip flop when he changed his position on off shore drilling just a few months ago?

 

I'd rather have a president who can re-examine issues and change positions, compromise if necessary, then one who stubbornly refuses to change position, no matter what.

And of course McCain didn't flip flop when he changed his position on off shore drilling just a few months ago?

 

I'd rather have a president who can re-examine issues and change positions, compromise if necessary, then one who stubbornly refuses to change position, no matter what.

 

Thanks TB and G. An unbiased observation certainly lends some clarity to a discussion

And of course McCain didn't flip flop when he changed his position on off shore drilling just a few months ago?

 

I'd rather have a president who can re-examine issues and change positions, compromise if necessary, then one who stubbornly refuses to change position, no matter what.

You are either missing the point or simply choosing to ignore it. Here is a challenge. List the positions that Obama has taken publicly that were either unpopular with his constituency or within his own party. Now do the same for McCain. Now, which one has shown the courage and resolve to take politically unpopular positions and which one seems to follow public opinion?

 

Obama's "plan" will indirectly raid pension plans and the 401K plans of millions of Americans who own large oil stocks. His proposal will force gasoline prices upwards so that he can buy votes with the loot that is generated.

You are either missing the point or simply choosing to ignore it. Here is a challenge. List the positions that Obama has taken publicly that were either unpopular with his constituency or within his own party. Now do the same for McCain. Now, which one has shown the courage and resolve to take politically unpopular positions and which one seems to follow public opinion?

 

Obama's "plan" will indirectly raid pension plans and the 401K plans of millions of Americans who own large oil stocks. His proposal will force gasoline prices upwards so that he can buy votes with the loot that is generated.

 

I could easily say the same thing about you, along with asking why you simply don't answer my question.

I could easily say the same thing about you, along with asking why you simply don't answer my question.

I did answer your question - you just do not like my answer. Now, do you care to cite all of those courageous positions that Obama has staked out and stuck with?

Strengthen Civil Rights Enforcement

Combat Employment Discrimination

Expand Hate Crimes Statutes

End Deceptive Voting Practices

End Racial Profiling

Reduce Crime Recidivism by Providing Ex-Offender Support

Eliminate Sentencing Disparities

Expand Use of Drug Courts

Reform Corporate Bankruptcy Laws to Protect Workers and Retirees

Require Full Disclosure of Company Pension Investments

Eliminate Income Taxes for Seniors Making Less Than $50,000

Create Automatic Workplace Pensions

Expand Early Head Start and Head Start

 

To name just a few

I did answer your question - you just do not like my answer. Now, do you care to cite all of those courageous positions that Obama has staked out and stuck with?

 

I have mentioned them in other threads. You also did not care for my answers there.

 

Just to be clear...I assume that your propose that McCain DID NOT flip-flop in doing the exact same thing that Obama did?

Strengthen Civil Rights Enforcement

Combat Employment Discrimination

Expand Hate Crimes Statutes

End Deceptive Voting Practices

End Racial Profiling

Reduce Crime Recidivism by Providing Ex-Offender Support

Eliminate Sentencing Disparities

Expand Use of Drug Courts

Reform Corporate Bankruptcy Laws to Protect Workers and Retirees

Require Full Disclosure of Company Pension Investments

Eliminate Income Taxes for Seniors Making Less Than $50,000

Create Automatic Workplace Pensions

Expand Early Head Start and Head Start

 

To name just a few

:laugh: Those are tough stands that are unpopular with his supporters and his party? :lol::lol::lol:

 

Sorry. I just realized that you may have meant to post Obama's pandering list, in which case...all I can say...is great job!