July 30, 200818 yr Author How the deal 'could' work... The Red Sox would pay nearly all of the approximately $7 million remaining on Ramirez's salary. The Marlins would include Josh Willingham or Jeremy Hermida, either of whom could replace Ramirez in left field, plus a prospect. Ramirez would waive his no-trade clause in exchange for the right to become a free agent at the end of the season. He also would agree to decline salary arbitration when offered it by the Marlins in December, enabling the team to preserve its right to draft-pick compensation while avoiding getting crushed by Ramirez on a one-year deal.
July 30, 200818 yr I thought this place was full of band wa..I mean Red Sox fans...What do you guys think about this???? First off I'm not a bandwagon fan. I've rooted for the Red Sox since I was 5 years old as anyone that knows me would tell you--I put up with all kinds of grief from my buddies over the years. As for the deal I'm fine with it. As much as I've enjoyed watching Manny play over the years it has become more and more obvious that his time in Boston is coming to an end at the end of the season if he isn't traded. Bay is signed for next season at a very affordable $7.5 Million. J.D. Drew's resurgance and the fact that Papi looks to be fully recovered so while Bay isn't the hitter that Manny is, he can replace most of his production. If it does go down I'll always be grateful for what Manny brought to the Sox during his tenure.
July 30, 200818 yr How the deal 'could' work... The Red Sox would pay nearly all of the approximately $7 million remaining on Ramirez's salary. The Marlins would include Josh Willingham or Jeremy Hermida, either of whom could replace Ramirez in left field, plus a prospect. Ramirez would waive his no-trade clause in exchange for the right to become a free agent at the end of the season. He also would agree to decline salary arbitration when offered it by the Marlins in December, enabling the team to preserve its right to draft-pick compensation while avoiding getting crushed by Ramirez on a one-year deal. I'm hearing the the 3 team deal is more likely and I would be more in favor of it than the straight up deal with the Marlins. However, if it does come down to it I wouldn't feel too comfortable making the deal for Willingham, Hermida I could live with.
July 31, 200818 yr Jayson Stark says the Red Sox are trying to get Stanton, Ryan Tucker, and one of Willingham/Hermida for Ramirez.
July 31, 200818 yr Jayson Stark says the Red Sox are trying to get Stanton, Ryan Tucker, and one of Willingham/Hermida for Ramirez. That's what I'm hearing as well but I'm hearing that really want to spin at least two of them to Pittsburgh, is that what you're getting?
July 31, 200818 yr That's what I'm hearing as well but I'm hearing that really want to spin at least two of them to Pittsburgh, is that what you're getting? That's the most likely scenario I've seen so far...
July 31, 200818 yr I’m hearing that a multi-team deal involving Jason Bay and the Florida Marlins is in the “final stages.” This could involve the previously in-place dealings involving Manny Ramirez as reported by our own John Perrotto. Joe Frisaro of MLB.com thinks that Bay could end up in Boston, Jeremy Hermida in Pittsburgh, and prospects flying every which way. My sources agree, though I will update as details become clearer http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=966
July 31, 200818 yr 7:46pm: Rosenthal talked to a Marlins official who said there's "no way" Stanton is in the deal. The Fish might want young players back if they're giving up prospects.
July 31, 200818 yr If Boston is able to get Bay from the Pirates, it's going to make the Pudge trade look like the Red Sox brought home the Prom Queen while the Yankees brought home her sister that's the base of the cheerleading pyramid.
July 31, 200818 yr 9:50pm: Will Carroll believes the Commissioner's Office has been informed of a Red Sox-Pirates-Marlins trade even though the teams haven't agreed on the prospects. Here's how he sees it: Marlins get Manny Ramirez, one prospect (BOS), and cash (likely Ramirez’s remaining salary) Pirates get Jeremy Hermida and three prospects (two FLO, one BOS) Red Sox get Jason Bay and John Grabow
July 31, 200818 yr 9:50pm: Will Carroll believes the Commissioner's Office has been informed of a Red Sox-Pirates-Marlins trade even though the teams haven't agreed on the prospects. Here's how he sees it: Marlins get Manny Ramirez, one prospect (BOS), and cash (likely Ramirez’s remaining salary) Pirates get Jeremy Hermida and three prospects (two FLO, one BOS) Red Sox get Jason Bay and John Grabow Wow, Marlins and Sox, did well if it gets finalized.
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