July 7, 200818 yr It makes perfect sense. Think about it like this... If I am playing SS and the ball is hit up the middle and I don't get to it, then it's a base hit. Maybe I don't get to it because of my defensive positioning, lack of speed, or maybe I just get a bad jump on the ball. Regardless, it goes in the books as a hit and my fielding % is still flawless. If I am playing SS and the ball is hit up the middle and I somehow bobble it or make a diving stop and then throw it over the 1st baseman's head, it's an error. Nevermind the fact that 90% of the other SS in the game wouldn't have gotten to it - the only thing that matters is that I did, and I didn't make the play. So, I am charged with an error and penalized because I got to a ball that the majority of "average" defenders would not have gotten to. Fielding % and saves are two of the most overrated statistics in baseball. Now, if you want to take the Range factor into account for fielding %, then it becomes a little more valuable; however, things such as defensive positioning and getting a good break on the ball are nearly impossible to gauge, but some of the most important factors. Add that to the fact that many errors are subjective, and you've got some statistics that I value very little. :thumb:
July 7, 200818 yr It makes perfect sense. Think about it like this... If I am playing SS and the ball is hit up the middle and I don't get to it, then it's a base hit. Maybe I don't get to it because of my defensive positioning, lack of speed, or maybe I just get a bad jump on the ball. Regardless, it goes in the books as a hit and my fielding % is still flawless. If I am playing SS and the ball is hit up the middle and I somehow bobble it or make a diving stop and then throw it over the 1st baseman's head, it's an error. Nevermind the fact that 90% of the other SS in the game wouldn't have gotten to it - the only thing that matters is that I did, and I didn't make the play. So, I am charged with an error and penalized because I got to a ball that the majority of "average" defenders would not have gotten to. Fielding % and saves are two of the most overrated statistics in baseball. Now, if you want to take the Range factor into account for fielding %, then it becomes a little more valuable; however, things such as defensive positioning and getting a good break on the ball are nearly impossible to gauge, but some of the most important factors. Add that to the fact that many errors are subjective, and you've got some statistics that I value very little. Couldn't agree more on the top part and the two overrated stats.
July 8, 200818 yr Saves aren't nearly as much a gauge of the effectiveness of a pitcher as they are a reflection of how that pitcher is used.
July 8, 200818 yr It makes perfect sense. Think about it like this... If I am playing SS and the ball is hit up the middle and I don't get to it, then it's a base hit. Maybe I don't get to it because of my defensive positioning, lack of speed, or maybe I just get a bad jump on the ball. Regardless, it goes in the books as a hit and my fielding % is still flawless. If I am playing SS and the ball is hit up the middle and I somehow bobble it or make a diving stop and then throw it over the 1st baseman's head, it's an error. Nevermind the fact that 90% of the other SS in the game wouldn't have gotten to it - the only thing that matters is that I did, and I didn't make the play. So, I am charged with an error and penalized because I got to a ball that the majority of "average" defenders would not have gotten to. Fielding % and saves are two of the most overrated statistics in baseball. Now, if you want to take the Range factor into account for fielding %, then it becomes a little more valuable; however, things such as defensive positioning and getting a good break on the ball are nearly impossible to gauge, but some of the most important factors. Add that to the fact that many errors are subjective, and you've got some statistics that I value very little. If a guy makes a diving stop but doesn't get the ball to first on time, it will not be an error, even if he doesn't field the ball clean. It's his fault if he throws it over the 1B head. So the fielder deserves an error. Range Factor might be the dumbest stat in baseball IMO. One 2B can have no range at all but have ten balls hit right at them while another 2B can have all kinds of range but have balls just out of their reach all day. The 2B with more range would have a lower Range Factor even though its obvious he may have more range. It's just the luck of where the ball is hit on a regular basis.
July 8, 200818 yr Range Factor might be the dumbest stat in baseball IMO.You are entitled to your opinion.
July 8, 200818 yr Wilson IS the saves leader in the NL though. Did or did DANNY GRAVES almost lead the NL in saves one year, saves matter but for closers you must look deeper into the stats to see if they are as good as there number of saves.
July 9, 200818 yr Range Factor might be the dumbest stat in baseball IMO. Wow, I think I would like a player that can cover some ground. What good is a guy with no errors if he can't move to get to any balls?
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