March 6, 200818 yr Oh I know he's fast, I just don't think he's Ted Ginn fast. Those had to be handtimed. I really dont know, but was Ginn a track guy?
March 6, 200818 yr But covercorner says when he participated they were all electronic...why would they change? If you watch the very first part of the clip you can see a bunch of coaches holding stopwatches and moving in unison to time. I'd say that pretty much solidifies that these guys were hand timed.
March 7, 200818 yr I really dont know, but was Ginn a track guy? Yeah, he's considered trying out for the Olympics
March 7, 200818 yr If you watch the very first part of the clip you can see a bunch of coaches holding stopwatches and moving in unison to time. I'd say that pretty much solidifies that these guys were hand timed. Lots of coaches still hand time on their own even when its electronic.
March 7, 200818 yr Lots of coaches still hand time on their own even when its electronic. In my experience this simply isn't true. Think about it, why would coaches want to use a known flawed way of timing when they had an electronic time readily available. Not to mention that it frees them up to take notes, etc. about the fluidity of the athlete, burst, and so on. My experience is that every coach wants a clear benchmark to judge speed against. Hand timing only satisfies that if the same coach does all the timing, and even then human error can make one guy look "faster" than he really is. The fact of the matter is that coaches split up across the nation to go to pro days, so using hand times becomes very difficult. However, if that's all you have available then that is what you have to use.
March 7, 200818 yr Lots of coaches still hand time on their own even when its electronic. More importantly, what is more likely, that 2 guys from UK ran two of the fastest 40's ever, or that they were hand timed? Take nothing away from the two, it looks like they can absolutely scoot, but it just isn't very likely. I would think an easy way to tell if they were hand timed would be to look at Tamme's times from the combine and his times here.
March 7, 200818 yr More importantly, what is more likely, that 2 guys from UK ran two of the fastest 40's ever, or that they were hand timed? Take nothing away from the two, it looks like they can absolutely scoot, but it just isn't very likely. I would think an easy way to tell if they were hand timed would be to look at Tamme's times from the combine and his times here. Or Steve Johnsons.:thumb:
March 7, 200818 yr In my experience this simply isn't true. Think about it, why would coaches want to use a known flawed way of timing when they had an electronic time readily available. Not to mention that it frees them up to take notes, etc. about the fluidity of the athlete, burst, and so on. My experience is that every coach wants a clear benchmark to judge speed against. Hand timing only satisfies that if the same coach does all the timing, and even then human error can make one guy look "faster" than he really is. The fact of the matter is that coaches split up across the nation to go to pro days, so using hand times becomes very difficult. However, if that's all you have available then that is what you have to use. More importantly, what is more likely, that 2 guys from UK ran two of the fastest 40's ever, or that they were hand timed? Take nothing away from the two, it looks like they can absolutely scoot, but it just isn't very likely. I would think an easy way to tell if they were hand timed would be to look at Tamme's times from the combine and his times here. Tamme didnt run at the Pro Day. If all were going to be hand timed, why wouldnt everybody run at the Pro Day, instead of Woodyard, Burton, and Tamme electing to not run here? You could only improve, right? Free them up to take notes? Yeah, I bet they get a lot written down in those less than 5 seconds.
March 7, 200818 yr Tamme didnt run at the Pro Day. If all were going to be hand timed, why wouldnt everybody run at the Pro Day, instead of Woodyard, Burton, and Tamme electing to not run here? You could only improve, right? Free them up to take notes? Yeah, I bet they get a lot written down in those less than 5 seconds. Maybe because all your scores would be taken with a grain of salt...
March 7, 200818 yr Isn't the standad difference between hand held and digitial timing .15? Locke is still kicking it if so. I could believe a 4.35 for Locke...he's got great speed. He's not running a legit 4.2 though... Smith is supposed to be a burner as well, so I can believe his being right at 4.4 or 4.39 also. Of course, I haven't seen as much of him on the field.
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