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Title IX

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I was told that colleges are going to rowing because it is inexpensive compared to other female sports. While the boats are expensive, you don't have to build a building/field to hold the match.

 

My understanding is that compared to offering other sports, the sport of rowing is rather inexpensive.

 

I was thinking of it more in terms of what it costs the individual athlete to participate rather than how much to run a program.

 

I know participation in rowing is very expensive, so I would think there is a lot of expenses for the program.

I would also like to see the number of men's teams at various schools that have been eliminated because of Title IX.

 

All Tell, the site I provided shows that from 1988-2004, that over 200 men's programs were cut. Since 2004, I know that JMU cut 10 sports because of IX issues. This was one of the biggest cuts by a university.

Looks like if you were a guy then JMU was the place to go.

All Tell, the site I provided shows that from 1988-2004, that over 200 men's programs were cut. Since 2004, I know that JMU cut 10 sports because of IX issues. This was one of the biggest cuts by a university.

 

On the flip side, I would assume that the years before Title IX, JMU was adding boys' sports while not adding any girls' sports.

 

If JMU would have been doing the right thing before Title IX, they would not have had to cut any boys' sports.

 

And an argument that I hear repeatedly in the public/private debate is applicable here. No one forced JMU to cut those men's sports. Don't blame Title IX for the self-imposed cuts that JMU made on their mens sports program. If they choose to cut instead of add women's sports, that is on them. Not Title IX.:D:thumb: (I like that argument now.)

I did some research on this a few years ago when all this was brewing, Title IX does not apply to the system it applies to the schools themselves. So while Trinity and Assumption are techinically Diocesan schools, they are independent entities from each other and as such are not subject to Title IX. Although it should be noted that Trinity became independent from the diocese years ago. None of the boys schools in Louisville are diocesan anymore actually, Trinity is independent, St.X is run by the Xavarian Brothers and DeSales is run by the Carmalite Brothers. The only schools in Louisville that are diocesan, I believe, are Assumption and Holy Cross. Holy Cross IS subject to Title IX as a co-ed school.

 

Great information. THank you.

 

That would seem to be a huge advantage for X and T as that is a big chunk of athletic money they don't have to set aside for women's sports in any fashion.

 

Question: What does being independent away from the diocesan mean?

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Great information. THank you.

 

That would seem to be a huge advantage for X and T as that is a big chunk of athletic money they don't have to set aside for women's sports in any fashion.

 

Question: What does being independent away from the diocesan mean?

 

 

It's a huge advantage for the girls schools too. But, it's not a situation that the schools are in for athletics.

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It's a huge advantage for the girls schools too. But, it's not a situation that the schools are in for athletics.

 

I don't understand your last sentence.

Independent from the diocese means (as near as I can explain it) that the schools are not "owned" by the diocese. They have their own decision making bodies and establish their own operating procedures. While a directive from the bishop would certainly carry considerable weight it wouldn't have the same effect as if the bishop made a directive to a parish, which in essence is owned by the diocese.

Independent from the diocese means (as near as I can explain it) that the schools are not "owned" by the diocese. They have their own decision making bodies and establish their own operating procedures. While a directive from the bishop would certainly carry considerable weight it wouldn't have the same effect as if the bishop made a directive to a parish, which in essence is owned by the diocese.

 

While it would never happen, is it possible that T or X could teach a sex ed unit with emphasis on condoms and the such despite the church's stance on that issue?

 

Also, what was the reasoning to go independent?

 

No nefarious reasoning in my posts, just curious and trying to educate myself on a Catholic issue that I know very little about it.

While it would never happen, is it possible that T or X could teach a sex ed unit with emphasis on condoms and the such despite the church's stance on that issue?

 

Also, what was the reasoning to go independent?

 

No nefarious reasoning in my posts, just curious and trying to educate myself on a Catholic issue that I know very little about it.

 

I haven't spoken with a teacher recently about your first topic, but I assume they are still teaching abstinence. They used to teach a marriage class.....but that has gone by the wayside. There is only one priest on staff.

 

Main reason for Trinity buying their independence was because Trinity could not give raises to their staff greater than DeSales and Holy Cross and therefore lost several teachers to St. X and the public schools. DeSales and Holy Cross are now independent as well.

They will sink or swim on their own. Holy Cross is fortunate to have a benefactor who has promised they will be open as long as he is alive!

 

The girl schools are usually owned by different religious orders of nuns. Mercy and Assumption are owned by Sisters of Mercy. I believe Sisters of Nazareth own Sacred Heart Academy. I believe Presentation is on their own.

Independent from the diocese means (as near as I can explain it) that the schools are not "owned" by the diocese. They have their own decision making bodies and establish their own operating procedures. While a directive from the bishop would certainly carry considerable weight it wouldn't have the same effect as if the bishop made a directive to a parish, which in essence is owned by the diocese.

Would being independent also allow them to aceept students from outside the Archdiocese?

Would being independent also allow them to aceept students from outside the Archdiocese?

 

The private schools can accept students from anywhere. Not just Cathoilc schools, Country Day, Collegiate.....take kids from all over.

 

The Southern Indiana Catholic Elementary schools participate with Louisville schools in athletic leagues even though they are part of another Archdiocese (Indianapolis).

 

Trinity is able to offer an educational opportunity to a wide range of students who may be academically challenged or physcially challenged to some degree as well as those who are high achievers. The financially challenged applicatioons are run through a third party who doles out financial aid donated by the Trinity Community. My understanding is the third party has no idea who the child is, just what their income sitution is.

The private schools can accept students from anywhere. Not just Cathoilc schools, Country Day, Collegiate.....take kids from all over.

 

The Southern Indiana Catholic Elementary schools participate with Louisville schools in athletic leagues even though they are part of another Archdiocese (Indianapolis).

 

Trinity is able to offer an educational opportunity to a wide range of students who may be academically challenged or physcially challenged to some degree as well as those who are high achievers. The financially challenged applicatioons are run through a third party who doles out financial aid donated by the Trinity Community. My understanding is the third party has no idea who the child is, just what their income sitution is.

 

Now that is Jefferson County privates correct? The NKY privates have said they are limited and cannot draw outside of the diocese.

Now that is Jefferson County privates correct? The NKY privates have said they are limited and cannot draw outside of the diocese.

 

I would think they would have to operate under the same rules Louisville Catholics have. If John Doe lives in Kenton County and wants to attend Covington Catholic, I would think he could.

 

Any restrictions they place upon themselves is due to their school board, not the Covington diocese. I'm sure they want things balanced. But a kid may choose Cov. Latin over Cov Cath. Also, Dave Justice, former major leaguer came over from Cincy and went to Cov. Latin.

 

Louisville Cathoilic schools may take any of person who can afford it and he abides by the school's discipline/academic standards. Anyone may apply for financial aid.

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