Can someone give some examples (Facts) of title nine violations.

 

Please do not mention any schools by name, but please cite what would be some violations.

Not equal primetime games.

One team always practicing first after school.

Quality of uniforms not equal.

Overnight trips and summer camp opportunities not equal.

Facilities not equal. Problem between softball and baseball.

Salary of coaches being different girls to boys. Especially in giving boys' coaches extended days for summer camps.

Not equal primetime games.

One team always practicing first after school.

Quality of uniforms not equal.

Overnight trips and summer camp opportunities not equal.

Facilities not equal. Problem between softball and baseball.

Salary of coaches being different girls to boys. Especially in giving boys' coaches extended days for summer camps

 

Thank you Ladies BBall.

Very interesting stuff.

Not equal primetime games.

One team always practicing first after school.

Quality of uniforms not equal.

Overnight trips and summer camp opportunities not equal.

Facilities not equal. Problem between softball and baseball.

Salary of coaches being different girls to boys. Especially in giving boys' coaches extended days for summer camps

 

Thank you Ladies BBall.

Very interesting stuff.

 

Curious on where you are coming from on this issue and why you have raised it?

Link ot KHSAA TitleIX information....http://www.khsaa.org/titleix/

Link ot KHSAA TitleIX information....http://www.khsaa.org/titleix/

 

 

Thanks Mod. I knew of the website but didnt know this was on it.

I have only one problem with Title IX. If, for example, a baseball team conducts fundraisers to improve their facilities, travel for spring preseason, or buy better equipment, then the same must be provided for the softball team even if they are not willing to do the necessary fundraising to achieve it.

I have only one problem with Title IX. If, for example, a baseball team conducts fundraisers to improve their facilities, travel for spring preseason, or buy better equipment, then the same must be provided for the softball team even if they are not willing to do the necessary fundraising to achieve it.

 

Are you asking this as a question or are you stating that this is actually a fact? If it's true, then that is flat-out ridiculous.

Are you asking this as a question or are you stating that this is actually a fact? If it's true, then that is flat-out ridiculous.

 

Actually it is not.

 

In some communities businesses and fundraisers can be more easily done and more successful for boys' sports than girls. For example, the Krispy Kreme doughnut sale that teams can do. Would more be sold at boys' games or girls' games? Split the pot sales, more at girls' or boys'?

 

Sometimes girls would have to work double the amount of time to raise the same amount of funds than the boys.

Actually it is not.

 

In some communities businesses and fundraisers can be more easily done and more successful for boys' sports than girls. For example, the Krispy Kreme doughnut sale that teams can do. Would more be sold at boys' games or girls' games? Split the pot sales, more at girls' or boys'?

 

Sometimes girls would have to work double the amount of time to raise the same amount of funds than the boys.

 

I would assume that would be the administration's job to ensure that both girls and boys teams had the same opportunity to make sales at the more profitable boys' sporting events.

 

I was thinking that the posting was relating to some type of fundraising activity that boys did on their own outside of school - some type of product sales, or car wash, or walkathon, or whatever - and that this money would then have to be split with the girls team, even though they chose not to participate, or at least not participate to the same degree.

I would assume that would be the administration's job to ensure that both girls and boys teams had the same opportunity to make sales at the more profitable boys' sporting events.

 

I was thinking that the posting was relating to some type of fundraising activity that boys did on their own outside of school - some type of product sales, or car wash, or walkathon, or whatever - and that this money would then have to be split with the girls team, even though they chose not to participate, or at least not participate to the same degree.

 

I will also say that there are those in the community that will step out to help out boys sports because they in return get more exposure (boys' games are better attended) than they would girls games.

 

And I guess it speaks to the mindset of society but I have found that some parents are more commitment and more willing to go the extra step for their male child and not their female child. Don't get me wrong, we have some wonderful parents that go the extra mile. But across the board, it seems the parents are more willing to put time in to redo facilities for the boys and not for the girls. Sad, but true.

 

The seem to see the boys athletics as important and the girls athletics as girls having fun. Probably something to do with a boys can end up with a career in the professional level and for the most part, girls cannot.

I will also say that there are those in the community that will step out to help out boys sports because they in return get more exposure (boys' games are better attended) than they would girls games.

 

Do you think that's wrong, though? I mean, seriously, if your company has limited advertising dollars to spend and want to make the most bang for your buck, why would you NOT spend it for the games where it would be seen by the most fans? I would venture to say that most businesses would be more than happy to "step out and help" girl's sports over boys if the girl's games were more heavily attended.

Solution? Single Sex schools! Everyone keeps their own loot!

Solution? Single Sex schools! Everyone keeps their own loot!

 

Probably keep my son more focused on his schoolwork too . . . . :laugh:

Do you think that's wrong, though? I mean, seriously, if your company has limited advertising dollars to spend and want to make the most bang for your buck, why would you NOT spend it for the games where it would be seen by the most fans? I would venture to say that most businesses would be more than happy to "step out and help" girl's sports over boys if the girl's games were more heavily attended.

 

From a business viewpoint, I understand and support it.

 

But from an education standpoint, the judicial system has said that girls' and boys' supports have to have the same opportunities. One aspect is that it doesn't matter whether we think it is right or wrong, it is what the courts said to do.

 

But I do think it is right. Because school athletics is not about the bottom line but rather about giving students and opportunity to learn many valuable skills while having a chance to compete for championships. And if those opportunities should not be diminished just because of gender bias in our society. Not at a school.

 

I can tell you in the 80's there were many schools that gave no support to female programs. Girls always practiced the 6 to 8 time. Girls had uniforms for 4-5-8 years while boys were getting new ones every 3 years. The mindset was you want the good stuff, draw better.