Baseball/Steroid Hearings

[Pat Dad]

The hearing is going on. It's on CSpan 2 and ESPN. Right off, it was announced that Miguel Tejada would be investigated. He was found in the Mitchell Report to have taken steroids and/or HGH. Tejada, previously, stated in the 2005 hearing that he didn't take anything.

 

It was also made known that MLB's punishment of steroid was the harshest among all sports, compared to length of season.

[Pat Dad]

D-Rep Betty McCollum of Minnesota just blazed MLB as a whole. Saying that officials knew about the drug use and that homeruns raised attendance, raised player's salaries, and lined the pockets of owners. Therefore fans were cheated and that is, in her mind, fraud. Very strong statement

[dmderringer10]

I think they just need to let this all go. Its in the past and MLB will never be able to move foward unless people just let all of this go and give a fresh start.

[cooperstown]

I think they just need to let this all go. Its in the past and MLB will never be able to move foward unless people just let all of this go and give a fresh start.

 

How do you fix the current problems within MLB without knowing about and dealing with the problems of the past?

 

My gripe has to do with Congress' involvement, as they surely have better things to do. You have Congressmen/women who probably couldn't recognize a baseball from a hockey puck making statements and decisions about matters they aren't equipped to deal with. But the fact of the matter is that MLB was very slow and ineffective in dealing with their own problems and gave Congress the opening to stick their nose in where it shouldn't be.

[Pat Dad]

I need to state that Tejada didn't testify in front of the 2005 committee, he spoke with a federal agent. That is what ESPN just said.

[STRIKE3]

When the Government gets involved, anything is capable of happening, from hearings to nothing.

 

It will get worse and keep us updated.

 

How do you fix the current problems within MLB without knowing about and dealing with the problems of the past?

 

My gripe has to do with Congress' involvement, as they surely have better things to do. You have Congressmen/women who probably couldn't recognize a baseball from a hockey puck making statements and decisions about matters they aren't equipped to deal with. But the fact of the matter is that MLB was very slow and ineffective in dealing with their own problems and gave Congress the opening to stick their nose in where it shouldn't be.

A lot of cooperation, on both sides and Players, willing to ensure the integrity of the game.

[stickymitts]

Donald Fehr's up next? Donnie boy's going to get HAMMERED!!!

[cooperstown]

When the Government gets involved, anything is capable of happening, from hearings to nothing.

 

A lot of cooperation, on both sides and Players, willing to ensure the integrity of the game.

 

And therein lies the problem - you aren't going to get (and haven't gotten to date) cooperation from players whose names are involved in the scandal. And the player's union has been nothing short of a major stumbling block in dealing with this issue - as have been the owners. They don't have a big incentive to see fans turned off to the players and game as a whole and risk losing income. That is why Congress had to stick their nose in. Keep your own house clean and you won't have some outside housekeeper judging your house and making rules on how you run your household.

[STRIKE3]

And therein lies the problem - you aren't going to get (and haven't gotten to date) cooperation from players whose names are involved in the scandal. And the player's union has been nothing short of a major stumbling block in dealing with this issue - as have been the owners. They don't have a big incentive to see fans turned off to the players and game as a whole and risk losing income. That is why Congress had to stick their nose in. Keep your own house clean and you won't have some outside housekeeper judging your house and making rules on how you run your household.

Agreed and slippery slope, in the greatest game there is.

 

Unless both can reach an agreement, compromise and make the fans truly believe, they are working for the betterment of MLB, the entire investigation will be nothing more, than a reality TV show.

 

Fans will continue to be the loser, if nothing with some teeth, isn't established.

[HHSDad]

This should be none of Congress' business. It's nothing more than political grandstanding.

[STRIKE3]

This should be none of Congress' business. It's nothing more than political grandstanding.

At the same time, is this hearing more about those who mislead the Fed's or the actual crisis, that MLB is facing.

 

I can only imagine, the 5 minutes each Politician gets to speak, is more about making them look good, to their constituents and not actually helping solve anything.

[Pat Dad]

At the same time, is this hearing more about those who mislead the Fed's or the actual crisis, that MLB is facing.

 

I can only imagine, the 5 minutes each Politician gets to speak, is more about making them look good, to their constituents and not actually helping solve anything.

 

A few have done that. And a couple, actually, wanted to know what is being done and how Mitchell's report has helped.

[cooperstown]

A few have done that. And a couple, actually, wanted to know what is being done and how Mitchell's report has helped.

 

A very valid question because to this point, other than lay out a bunch of names, what has been the value of the Mitchell Report? It's obviously still very early in the game, but baseball needs to ensure that this report is more than an interesting read.

[STRIKE3]

A few have done that. And a couple, actually, wanted to know what is being done and how Mitchell's report has helped.

Geez, if that is all this hearing is geared around, then re-runs of Gilligan's Island, is more worth watching.

 

I believe Mitchell even offered, his report is not complete and not all inclusive. The Union and Ownership, need to reach some agreeable method, of striving to eliminate all illegal enhancements.

 

Establish proactive testing, which are more frequent. Test ALL players, prior after each playoff game and fine them, substantially for any positive test, say 25% total salary on a first test positive.

[Pat Dad]

Geez, if that is all this hearing is geared around, then re-runs of Gilligan's Island, is more worth watching.

 

I believe Mitchell even offered, his report is not complete and not all inclusive. The Union and Ownership, need to reach some agreeable method, of striving to eliminate all illegal enhancements.

 

Establish proactive testing, which are more frequent. Test ALL players, prior after each playoff game and fine them, substantially for any positive test, say 25% total salary on a first test positive.

 

Well, yea. true. That is looking like it's all that is going on. They are asking about the ADD/ADHD drug that is, now, being used by more baseball player. It is supposed to give the same effect as amphetimines.