Again, you have lost sight of the fact that government employees don't make the same as people do in the private sector. So the government looks for ways to give them benefits so they are not having to fork out the big bucks. If you think it is so awesome, why aren't you folks applying for a state job. The governor has put the application on the website, fill it out and start raking in all those big bucks . . . I would guarantee if you were to work at your same level in state government that you would take a pay cut.

 

1990 I was employed in the JCPENNEY management training program. I took a $5,000 cut in pay to become a teacher.

 

Using the pay scale AT THAT TIME, assuming NORMAL promotions in 20 years I would have been making double of what I would be making as a teacher, NOT including any bonuses.

 

I chose teaching though for the unlimited supply of #2 pencils.

Do you think that I would only have six paid holidays if I worked for the government? :lol:

 

How many paid holidays do government workers receive?

Again, you have lost sight of the fact that government employees don't make the same as people do in the private sector. So the government looks for ways to give them benefits so they are not having to fork out the big bucks. If you think it is so awesome, why aren't you folks applying for a state job. The governor has put the application on the website, fill it out and start raking in all those big bucks . . . I would guarantee if you were to work at your same level in state government that you would take a pay cut.

 

 

I completely realize that on the whole government employees make less than most in the private sector. I don't know where you saw me post that.

 

Back to the topic, I merely asked,

 

"how many government employees would continue being "public servants" if their benefits were to drop or salaries were to decrease?"

How many paid holidays do government workers receive?

It may vary among departments, but KSP officers receive 10-1/2 paid holidays a year. They also accrue one paid day of sick leave per month worked, with no upper limit on sick days. My understanding is that these benefits apply to other state employees as well, but I am not a state employee so I cannot say for sure.

It may vary among departments, but KSP officers receive 10-1/2 paid holidays a year. They also accrue one paid day of sick leave per month worked, with no upper limit on sick days. My understanding is that these benefits apply to other state employees as well, but I am not a state employee so I cannot say for sure.

 

Thanks, does any one out there know how many paid vacation days others might receive? teachers etc...

I completely realize that on the whole government employees make less than most in the private sector.

This may be true for state government employees, but it is definitely not true of federal employees. On average, federal employees make double in salary and benefits as compared to the average private sector worker.

Thanks, does any one out there know how many paid vacation days others might receive? teachers etc...

 

4 paid holidays for teachers. Labor, Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year's.

 

Each district determines what is called personal days. Mine has one day. To be used for whatever reason. I usually use it to go on my children's school field trips.

 

We have 3 emergency days. What is an emergency, depends on the superintendent. We have had a teacher that's spouse had a heart attack and rushed to hospital. Superintendent said that was not an emergency day.

We had a teacher's whose house was robbed during the day and when the police arrived to inform her and she wanted to go to her house, it was not considered an emergency day.

 

Also 10 sick days that can carryover from year to year. Don't use any this year, 20 for next year.

This may be true for state government employees, but it is definitely not true of federal employees. On average, federal employees make double in salary and benefits as compared to the average private sector worker.

 

I seriously doubt your information. What do you base it on? One of the problems in the federal government is that at almost every position the person can do much better in the private sector.

I seriously doubt your information. What do you base it on? One of the problems in the federal government is that at almost every position the person can do much better in the private sector.

 

I agree, I have friends who are administrators in the SSA in Frankfort. They are getting paid like most state workers.

https://sjobs.brassring.com/1033/ASP/TG/cim_searchresults.asp?ref=1182008133142

 

http://personnel.ky.gov/info/persinfo/salsch.htm

 

Link one shows you the State Job openings in Frankfort, with their ranks.

 

Link two show you the average mid-point pay. When you are hired in a merit position you never receive mid-point (I don't even know why they call it that), it is always less.

 

An Engineer would make less than 50,000.00 a year for her first year in state government. with at most a 5% cost of living increase an engineer would make about 63,000.00 after 5 years on the job.

Our principal informed us at a staff meeting that the Governor had emailed all administrators in the state to see where we could cut education dollars. I am including my reply.

 

 

January 17, 2008.

 

 

 

Office of the Governor

Governor Steve Beshear

Frankfort, Kentucky

 

 

Dear Governor Beshear:

I am a teacher in a small independent school district in Corbin, Kentucky. Today, our administrator informed us that you had written him and other administrators across the state in order to enlist their help in deciding what cuts should be made in our obviously bulging education budget to aid in weathering this financial crisis the state is now going through.

First of all I want you to know how much I appreciate the forethought that you have given to this immense task, not many people would realize that education funds are over rated and we have way too much surplus to really be of much benefit. They would not have understood that, of course, education monies must be the first to go.

I trust that you won’t think it presumptuous of me but I have come up with some ideas that are sure to get this state running in the black in record time. I am hoping you will take the time to consider these and perhaps judge them worthy of including them in your plans to returning our state to the forefront.

My first idea is to create lottery learning centers in the primary and elementary classrooms. In this way, students from Kindergarten through fifth grade will be provided with an opportunity to learn real-life skills to make them productive citizens of our fine state. They will learn the art of “scratching off”, “power ball”, “pick three”, etc. and will begin to enjoy the thrill of sinning (pardon me---I mean winning) and being successful. This alone will foster a strong self esteem.

We will also create parent information packs for the children to give to their caregivers giving them instructions on how to play the lottery and to teach them that by buying more chances they will stand a better chance of being a winner. We will be sure to target the lower-socio-economic ---- free and reduced lunch group----- because we know that they will have the most to gain from this educational breakthrough.

Next, as the children travel through our education system they will “graduate” to the more elite forms of gaming. In the middle school students will be taught how to place bets and the teachers will present mathematical lessons on how to play the odds.

Finally, when they reach the high school level they will find that the commons area has been transformed into a casino layout. The curriculum will include classes such as “How to be the best bookie you can be” and “The slot machines are my friends.” No longer will tons of PD dollars have to be spent on irrelevant topics such as reading, writing, science, etc. These dollars can now be used to give our great representatives a much needed pay raise since they have worked so hard in making our state the best that it can be.

I can see this as a real boon for the national economy as well---you are truly the Savior. I am very proud to be a Kentuckian and call this my home. I can’t think of anyone I would rather have as our leader.

In conclusion, if you need to contact me at any time please feel free to do so. Keep in mind that on Sunday and Tuesdays I play Bingo at the local parlor

. . . I never take calls during this time. Hope your next four years bid you well.

 

 

Sincerely,

 

A progressive teacher

and concerned citizen of Kentucky

 

 

 

 

 

I feel where you are coming from, but I also wonder if sarcasm is the best way to address your concerns?

4 paid holidays for teachers. Labor, Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year's.

 

Each district determines what is called personal days. Mine has one day. To be used for whatever reason. I usually use it to go on my children's school field trips.

 

We have 3 emergency days. What is an emergency, depends on the superintendent. We have had a teacher that's spouse had a heart attack and rushed to hospital. Superintendent said that was not an emergency day.

We had a teacher's whose house was robbed during the day and when the police arrived to inform her and she wanted to go to her house, it was not considered an emergency day.

 

Also 10 sick days that can carryover from year to year. Don't use any this year, 20 for next year.

 

Are you sure that you don't work in my district?

 

When my mother was rushed to the hospital in an ambulance (complications due to congestive heart failure, kidney disease and diabetes), that was not an emergency day. Also, when I was working summer school, I had to take a day off without pay to go to my uncle's funeral.

 

I have taught for 12 years. I have missed 6 days of school. One for my mother and the other five after ACL surgery.

I seriously doubt your information. What do you base it on? One of the problems in the federal government is that at almost every position the person can do much better in the private I agree, I have friends who are administrators in the SSA in Frankfort. They are getting paid like most state workers.

I agree, I have friends who are administrators in the SSA in Frankfort. They are getting paid like most state workers.

 

It's against the rules to post false information on BGP. I expected somebody to challenge my statement. Government employees and their unions have been very effective in convincing the general public that they are chronically underpaid. Some are, many are not.

 

Report: Federal pay, benefits double private sector's

 

New figures from the Commerce Department's U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis show average compensation for federal employees to be double that of private sector workers for the first time.

 

Federal workers earned an average of $106,579 in 2005, including benefits, or about twice the average private sector compensation of $53,289 with benefits included. This marked the first time federal compensation reached this point; for 2004 the bureau's statistics put it at slightly less than double the private sector's.

 

Without benefits, the difference for 2005 is less. Federal employees earned an average salary of $71,114 while their private sector counterparts earned $43,917.

I feel where you are coming from, but I also wonder if sarcasm is the best way to address your concerns?

 

This was a joke. I am not really sending this in.

I would rather a tax increase on smokes than a cut from the educational funds.

 

 

Me, too.

 

Where can I sign the petition?