Sounds like it got ugly for Ryle with 3 Ts. That's disappointing .

 

Nice win for HC. Sorrell and Giwa combine for about 45 of the 61 points for the Tribe.

Congrats to Holy Cross. I thought they would win!

Loss of control on the Ryle coaches part. Anytime a kid gets ejected its a major problem. Sounds like its been a frustrating year so far for the Raiders.

Loss of discipline/composure has killed many a good sports team. Can't say I always agree with the commonly heard cliche that a team's attitude reflects the character of the coach, but it is always the coach's responsiblity when his team shows poor sportsmanship. Ryle seems to be developing a penchant for losing its composure in tough, close games and will need to correct this fast if they are to have a successful season. It starts at the top.

Loss of discipline/composure has killed many a good sports team. Can't say I always agree with the commonly heard cliche that a team's attitude reflects the character of the coach, but it is always the coach's responsiblity when his team shows poor sportsmanship. Ryle seems to be developing a penchant for losing its composure in tough, close games and will need to correct this fast if they are to have a successful season. It starts at the top.

 

 

This is not just a basketball problem at Ryle.

Loss of control on the Ryle coaches part. Anytime a kid gets ejected its a major problem. Sounds like its been a frustrating year so far for the Raiders.

 

I was at the game and thought the two of the three T fouls were uncalled for. The first was for slapping the backboard while trying to block a shot and the second for forcibly slamming the ball after the first technical foul was called. This was done out of frustration and was projected towards his disappointment in himself not the call. I think Ryle is judged harder by officials because of their history. Their perceived toughness has a price and unfortunately tough calls are one byproduct that they must live with or change the preception of the officals as a group. You can't have it both ways.

This is not just a basketball problem at Ryle.

 

I'm not sure what this comment is all about and I totally disagree with this cheap shot at Ryle. Ryle has had a LOT of sports success in baseball, soccer, football, softball, golf and wrestling, especially over the past few years - probably more combined success in various sports than any other NKY school during that time period. Teams that do not perform under pressure do not advance to appearances in state tournaments. How about Ryle's clutch comeback win vs. CovCath in baseball in 2007 erasing a 3-run lead in the bottom of the last inning with the region title on the line. A lot of these guys were multi-sport athletes who represent the character that a lot of the Ryle students have. Ryle's basketball program is in good hands with Alan Mullins.

I was at the game and thought the two of the three T fouls were uncalled for. The first was for slapping the backboard while trying to block a shot and the second for forcibly slamming the ball after the first technical foul was called. This was done out of frustration and was projected towards his disappointment in himself not the call. I think Ryle is judged harder by officials because of their history. Their perceived toughness has a price and unfortunately tough calls are one byproduct that they must live with or change the preception of the officals as a group. You can't have it both ways.

 

 

Obviously the slapping of the board wasn't an attempt to block the shot or a technical wouldn't have been called. Also, forcibly slamming the ball, whether done in disappointment in ones own play or not may result in a technical. You are asking the officials to interpret why the ball was slammed on the floor? How about the player keeping his composure?

I am also confused by the comment of "perceived toughness has a price"? Are the officials just making up calls?

Obviously the slapping of the board wasn't an attempt to block the shot or a technical wouldn't have been called. Also, forcibly slamming the ball, whether done in disappointment in ones own play or not may result in a technical. You are asking the officials to interpret why the ball was slammed on the floor? How about the player keeping his composure?

I am also confused by the comment of "perceived toughness has a price"? Are the officials just making up calls?

 

Good points, the technicals are what they are regardless if the kid was making a valiant attempt to block a shot or mad at himself. He should know its a tech to slap the backboard and he should know that slamming the ball down is a direct disrespect to the referee. Regardless, its an ejection and the kid blew it for his team and now has to sit out another game. I am sure he will learn from this and it sounds like he is not a bad kid just made a silly mistake.

I'm not sure what this comment is all about and I totally disagree with this cheap shot at Ryle. Ryle has had a LOT of sports success in baseball, soccer, football, softball, golf and wrestling, especially over the past few years - probably more combined success in various sports than any other NKY school during that time period. Teams that do not perform under pressure do not advance to appearances in state tournaments. How about Ryle's clutch comeback win vs. CovCath in baseball in 2007 erasing a 3-run lead in the bottom of the last inning with the region title on the line. A lot of these guys were multi-sport athletes who represent the character that a lot of the Ryle students have. Ryle's basketball program is in good hands with Alan Mullins.

 

LOL....Haven't you heard? Our golf team is just waaaaaaay too aggresive and has a horrible reputation. The opposition wears helmets on the golf course when they meet up with Ryle. LOL

I'm not sure what this comment is all about and I totally disagree with this cheap shot at Ryle. Ryle has had a LOT of sports success in baseball, soccer, football, softball, golf and wrestling, especially over the past few years - probably more combined success in various sports than any other NKY school during that time period. Teams that do not perform under pressure do not advance to appearances in state tournaments. How about Ryle's clutch comeback win vs. CovCath in baseball in 2007 erasing a 3-run lead in the bottom of the last inning with the region title on the line. A lot of these guys were multi-sport athletes who represent the character that a lot of the Ryle students have. Ryle's basketball program is in good hands with Alan Mullins.

 

First, it was not a cheap shot at Ryle as a whole. My point is 100% valid about Ryle having a "history" in football of kids and coaches nudging up to and sometimes across the line of acceptable behavior on the playing field. Its not many kids. However, it only takes a few incidents and that's where Ryle is. I support Coach Mullins. I saw in the paper where he took responsibility which is admirable. However, the players have to share in that responsibility as well. We've seen this on the gridiron and now we see it on the hardwood, thus, my original comment that its not limited to the basketbal program.

 

I have no clue how your comment about a comeback plays into this conversation but obviously its a good memory.

He should know its a tech to slap the backboard .

 

Slapping the backboard is not in and of itself a technical. From the rule book:

 

A player shall not INTENTIONALLY slap or strike the backboard or cuase the ring to vibrate while a try or tap is in flight or is touching the backboard or if the ball is in the basket or in the cylinder above the basket.

 

If a kid tries to block a shot and slaps the backboard , its not a T unless the ref deems the slapping to be intentional OR if the slap cause a ball in the basket to not go in.

Slapping the backboard is not in and of itself a technical. From the rule book:

 

A player shall not INTENTIONALLY slap or strike the backboard or cuase the ring to vibrate while a try or tap is in flight or is touching the backboard or if the ball is in the basket or in the cylinder above the basket.

 

If a kid tries to block a shot and slaps the backboard , its not a T unless the ref deems the slapping to be intentional OR if the slap cause a ball in the basket to not go in.

 

I like the information. Obviously it is a judgement call by the official on whether the kid intentionally slapped the backboard. It could not have been because the ball did not go in because the ball did go in. Most of the time, there is no call or a goal tend call. But the official decided, he did intentionally slap it, so issues a technical. the kid then out of frustration slams the ball down on floor, but ball never gets higher than his waist. The other official from behind issues the technical. Again a judgement call on Referee. Some officials call it some don't. It was a bad decision on players part as he compounds a bad play with another.

 

Now, a player who was issued two technicals and is ejected from game must sit out the next game-in this case a district game vs. St. Henry. Anyone know if a slap the backboard T would be considered differently than technicals for unsportsmanlike conduct-like slamming ball down or pushing another player? This might allow the player to play the next game?? I doubt it, but was just wondering.

Loss of discipline/composure has killed many a good sports team. Can't say I always agree with the commonly heard cliche that a team's attitude reflects the character of the coach, but it is always the coach's responsiblity when his team shows poor sportsmanship. Ryle seems to be developing a penchant for losing its composure in tough, close games and will need to correct this fast if they are to have a successful season. It starts at the top.

 

I agree with your assessment. Sometimes players (HS, college, and Pros) make bad decisions in the heat of battle. I am sure Coach Mullins will handle the poor decisions of his players internally. Hopefully the players will learn from it and be better in the long run.

 

Sometimes coaches even lose their cool in games and receive technicals. It does not necessarily reflect that the coach is a bad character person.

I agree with your assessment. Sometimes players (HS, college, and Pros) make bad decisions in the heat of battle. I am sure Coach Mullins will handle the poor decisions of his players internally. Hopefully the players will learn from it and be better in the long run.

 

Sometimes coaches even lose their cool in games and receive technicals. It does not necessarily reflect that the coach is a bad character person.

 

Absolutely agree. And from what little I know about Coach Mullins, he seems like a class individual and good coach.

 

First, it was not a cheap shot at Ryle as a whole. My point is 100% valid about Ryle having a "history" in football of kids and coaches nudging up to and sometimes across the line of acceptable behavior on the playing field. Its not many kids.

 

Unacceptable behavior on the part of a few kids does not define the character of a team or program as a whole. You'd be hard-pressed to name any large-sized school whose sports teams don't have a few problems. This even includes CC. Yes, even CC has a few kids that occasionally nudge up to and cross lines of acceptable behavior, yet I hardly think this should (or does) reflect negatively on their program as a whole. Ryle runs a good sports program, and this includes their football team. Is it perfect? Not hardly. But name one that is (you can't).