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Evolution vs Creationism vs Intelligent Design Catch-All Thread

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I meant relating to the specific topic at hand. As in the Big Bang Theory, or evolution.

 

Also, there are many scientists who believe in a God and believe in the theories of science.

Everything I posted has to do with the topic at hand... specifically how every scientist has essentially the exact same evidence to work with, and every scientist interprets it according to his or her unique worldview. It is rare to find a scientist so brutally honest on a personal level that they will deliberately contradict their own biases or worldview. They may exist, but they are rare indeed.

 

I believe in God and believe in many of the theories of science. I simply dispute a some of the controversial theories on the grounds of how I (and a healthy number of scientists) choose to interpret the evidence.

 

The Big Bang is entirely impossible based upon "natural" laws alone. Something beyond nature (supernatural) had to occur, whether one describes this as God or not. :thumb:

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Everything I posted has to do with the topic at hand... specifically how every scientist has essentially the exact same evidence to work with, and every scientist interprets it according to his or her unique worldview. It is rare to find a scientist so brutally honest on a personal level that they will deliberately contradict their own biases or worldview. They may exist, but they are rare indeed.

 

I believe in God and believe in many of the theories of science. I simply dispute a some of the controversial theories on the grounds of how I (and a healthy number of scientists) choose to interpret the evidence.

 

The Big Bang is entirely impossible based upon "natural" laws alone. Something beyond nature (supernatural) had to occur, whether one describes this as God or not. :thumb:

 

 

I believe God created this earth. If he did it through what scientists call "the big bang" then so be it. I don't know how he did it, and I'm not saying scientists do. I'm simply saying they do a lot of research before throwing the word "theory" out there lol.

If you don't believe God created the heavens and earth in six days, and rested on the seventh, this includes of course man....you are calling God a liar. Good Luck.

If you don't believe God created the heavens and earth in six days, and rested on the seventh, this includes of course man....you are calling God a liar. Good Luck.

 

I respect your opinion greatly, Larry. However, that's one interpretation. Many do not take a literalist stance in interpretation. I, for one, do not believe that all there is to know is found in the Bible.

I respect your opinion greatly, Larry. However, that's one interpretation. Many do not take a literalist stance in interpretation. I, for one, do not believe that all there is to know is found in the Bible.

 

I don't think you will get disagreement from anyone on the bolded. It says in the NT that the Bible couldn't hold all the miracles and things that Jesus did.

 

It says somewhere that we don't have the capabilities to understand all that God has had to do and why he has done it.

 

 

So, I don't believe what you typed and I bolded is questionable at all.

 

I do think God has revealed to us what we DO NEED to know to live a good Christian life.

 

When we get in trouble is when we try and put our human reasoning to what God has not revealed to us. We expect God to think on an imperfect human reasoning aspect. We are right with our thoughts even though we are imperfect beings and God must be wrong even though he is a perfect being.

True...thats OK. I reread what I posted and sometimes that southern Bible Belt side of me starts up. I'm hard to live with too. Look in the last verse of the Book of John. Everyone.

The Gooch has been itching to get at this thread:ylsuper:

 

 

My Opinion as it has been stated above by many people. God created life on earth through the process of evolution.

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I accept scientific explanations for things and have absolutely no problem reconciling my belief in God with that. I don't see why God would create things exactly the way it says in Genesis and then actually make the Earth and the Universe full of evidence to the contrary. The Bible that we have was put together by some bishops 300 or so years after Jesus left. The OT has been translated, retranslated, passed down, and picked up stories from other religions. I believe the Bible reveals God's truth but not every single sentence should be taken literally especially the KJV. The Bible mentions unicorns for cryin' out loud.

I accept scientific explanations for things and have absolutely no problem reconciling my belief in God with that. I don't see why God would create things exactly the way it says in Genesis and then actually make the Earth and the Universe full of evidence to the contrary. The Bible that we have was put together by some bishops 300 or so years after Jesus left. The OT has been translated, retranslated, passed down, and picked up stories from other religions. I believe the Bible reveals God's truth but not every single sentence should be taken literally especially the KJV. The Bible mentions unicorns for cryin' out loud.

 

Where?

If you don't believe God created the heavens and earth in six days, and rested on the seventh, this includes of course man....you are calling God a liar. Good Luck.

 

That's your point of view. I don't believe every single thing in the Bible is meant to be taken literally. If so, it would be very difficult for us to take it literally seeing as how it's been translated from it's original language and much has probably been lost in translation.

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Where?

 

Numbers 23:22 (King James Version)

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22God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.

 

Also satyrs

Isaiah 13:21 (King James Version)

King James Version (KJV)

 

21But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there.

Numbers 23:22 (King James Version)

King James Version (KJV)

 

 

22God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.

 

Also satyrs

Isaiah 13:21 (King James Version)

King James Version (KJV)

 

21But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there.

 

My NIV says wild ox on the first one. Not sure what a satyr is but my NIV says wild goats.

 

Wonder what the original manuscript says? Hatz? Alabama Larry? Fastbreak? Any help here?

That's your point of view. I don't believe every single thing in the Bible is meant to be taken literally. If so, it would be very difficult for us to take it literally seeing as how it's been translated from it's original language and much has probably been lost in translation.

 

I could be wrong here, but I think many of today's translations are translated from the original manuscripts are they not?

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There aren't any original manuscripts. There are manuscripts close to the time of Christ but nothing "original".

The fact that the KJV, which many believe is God's dictation to mankind, mentions mythical animals and the NIV corrects this is one example of what's been happening to the Bible for the past 4,000 years. Up until the 300's AD or so there was no Bible as we know it, just a collection of books. A group of bishops decided what should go in and what shouldn't. I believe the Bible is God's word but I can't accept the 6,000 year old universe when that's something man got from adding up ages of patriarchs.

The closest we have today to a accurate translation is the NASB Bible.

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