December 12, 200718 yr Author It's just a pet peeve of mine when people say a college athlete sucks. He obviously has some sort of talent or he wouldn't be on the team. Every team has them, what's so different about UK's team? Nothing really except for the fact that this is called "BlueGrassPreps", so I figured I would talk about the UK players.
December 12, 200718 yr It's just a pet peeve of mine when people say a college athlete sucks. He obviously has some sort of talent or he wouldn't be on the team. Every team has them, what's so different about UK's team? It's not like when someone says a college player sucks they're comparing said player to their own abilities; it's always that said player sucks compared to other college players. To say, "they're better than you" is incredibly lame and missing the overall obvious point.
December 12, 200718 yr My guess it was the same person who brought in Woo and Shagari Speaking of them, isn't Woo in the NBA now?
December 12, 200718 yr It's not like when someone says a college player sucks they're comparing said player to their own abilities; it's always that said player sucks compared to other college players. To say, "they're better than you" is incredibly lame and missing the overall obvious point. What's incredibly lame is making a thread on the internet just to talk trash about some walk-ons. Earlier when someone asked his point, he said the point is they suck. So what, none of the players above will ever be counted on to contribute at UK, so what's the big deal? It's not like they any of them, besides Williams or Carter, is actually on a full ride. There are these kinds of players at every major university.
December 12, 200718 yr What's incredibly lame is making a thread on the internet just to talk trash about some walk-ons. Earlier when someone asked his point, he said the point is they suck. So what, none of the players above will ever be counted on to contribute at UK, so what's the big deal? It's not like they any of them, besides Williams or Carter, is actually on a full ride. There are these kinds of players at every major university. Perhaps, but that doesn't change the fact that it is completely silly for someone to say, "They're better than you" when some average joe criticizes a college or pro player, as though the player in question is being compared to average joes rather than his peers. That's just a lame way for athletes to try and shield themselves from criticism, often very deserved criticism. It ranks right up there with athletes using the "you don't know; you didn't play the game" excuse, completely discounting someone's ability to observe and learn about the game and comment on what happened.
December 12, 200718 yr Perhaps, but that doesn't change the fact that it is completely silly for someone to say, "They're better than you" when some average joe criticizes a college or pro player, as though the player in question is being compared to average joes rather than his peers. That's just a lame way for athletes to try and shield themselves from criticism, often very deserved criticism. It ranks right up there with athletes using the "you don't know; you didn't play the game" excuse, completely discounting someone's ability to observe and learn about the game and comment on what happened. I don't see where the criticism is deserved in this particular example, Jim. These players aren't supposed to be all-stars, they walked on for a reason. And in many cases if people haven't played the game, they don't know what they are talking about. That's why almost everyone who coaches or analyzes games is a former player them self. You have a lot more credibility if you have played the game and know what it's like than if you have just sat in the stands and watched.
December 12, 200718 yr I don't see where the criticism is deserved in this particular example, Jim. These players aren't supposed to be all-stars, they walked on for a reason. Maybe, but my point is more of an over-arching one rather than this specific instance. And in many cases if people haven't played the game, they don't know what they are talking about. That's why almost everyone who coaches or analyzes games is a former player them self. You have a lot more credibility if you have played the game and know what it's like than if you have just sat in the stands and watched. And I object in the strongest possible terms to this hogwash, because it completely discounts the decades I have spent observing and learning about the game. And there are plenty of players who don't know jack. Emmitt Smith, for example, embarrasses himself several times a week with his profound lack of knowledge about the game he played.
December 12, 200718 yr And I object in the strongest possible terms to this hogwash, because it completely discounts the decades I have spent observing and learning about the game. And there are plenty of players who don't know jack. Emmitt Smith, for example, embarrasses himself several times a week with his profound lack of knowledge about the game he played. I'm not saying you have to play to be able to know the game, but it sure does help a lot. For every Emmitt Smith, you have a Jay Bilas and a Kirk Herbstreit who are the absolute best at what they do. Not saying you have to be a stud at the game, but you definitely have an advantage if you've played and know what it's like out there on the field/court.
December 12, 200718 yr I'm not saying you have to play to be able to know the game, but it sure does help a lot. For every Emmitt Smith, you have a Jay Bilas and a Kirk Herbstreit who are the absolute best at what they do. Not saying you have to be a stud at the game, but you definitely have an advantage if you've played and know what it's like out there on the field/court. Where did Mike Decourcy play???
December 12, 200718 yr You don't think he's ever played ball before? So if you play in 7th grade, you're good? He's smaller than me...
December 12, 200718 yr So if you play in 7th grade, you're good? He's smaller than me... Never said it had to be big time, just that if you have never been out there before it's hard to take you as serious as someone that has played the game for a while.
December 12, 200718 yr Never said it had to be big time, just that if you have never been out there before it's hard to take you as serious as someone that has played the game for a while. Do you think I am knowledgeable about football???
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