...and by the way, it was an AK.

I know that. Doesn't change the point. :thumb:

Not much time for shot placement when you're being sprayed with lead.

 

I guess we will agree to disagree.

Lets see how that machine gun does him while Im behind, or to the side of him, with a crimson trace laser pointed in his ear! At that point is doesnt matter if its a .22, .32, .38, .380, .40 S&W or the one dear to my heart a .45 ACP. He's DONE!

 

:thumb: 100% correct.

Would never happen. These things happen by surprise. It may sound cool to play commando, but in real life, I doubt that it would be a factor. The only thing that is going to end the situation is superior numbers, superior training, and superior weapons.

 

The interesting thing is...you have no idea what type of training I have had. Its just that if someone has a machine gun, you better roll in the M1A1's or it cannot be stopped.

The interesting thing is...you have no idea what type of training I have had. Its just that if someone has a machine gun, you better roll in the M1A1's or it cannot be stopped.

Completely untrue. SWAT teams would tell you otherwise. We'll definitely have to agree to disagree on this one.

Completely untrue. SWAT teams would tell you otherwise. We'll definitely have to agree to disagree on this one.

 

My question is then...how long will it take the swat team to get there? Are you telling me that an under cover officer shouldnt act in a situation like this because he happened to be patrolling alone? In the meantime, I guess this clown should just continue unloading his weapon on the defenseless.

Completely untrue. SWAT teams would tell you otherwise. We'll definitely have to agree to disagree on this one.

 

I agree with you Birdsfan. You also have to factor in the ability to accurately fire a weapon when under intense stress. That's not a requirement for attaining a CCW. I'm sure some who have them have been in the situation before, either as a soldier or policeman, but most haven't. You can be the most accurate shooter in the world but once bullets start flying I sincerely question your ability to fire accurately.

 

Listen, it would be great if someone popped up behind this guy and let him have it before he finished his senseless killings. But to say having more guns around the situation would have alleviated it is unreasonable as it could have just as easily escalated the situation or compounded the damage.

The kid left a suicide note and said, "now I will be famous." Why is the media GIVING HIM MEDIA TIME? They are telling others that are mentally unstable similar to this an example of how he is becoming famous.

 

Talk about it but NEVER put his face or name on the air. Let him be a nameless and faceless murderer.

I'll let anyone of you choose the pistol of your choice, and I'll take the M-16 or AK-47. Put a 100 yds between us and we'll see who goes down first.

 

If these fools want to put a bullet in their ear, that's fine by me. Why do they feel the need to take others with them?

I'll let anyone of you choose the pistol of your choice, and I'll take the M-16 or AK-47. Put a 100 yds between us and we'll see who goes down first.

Amen!! :ylsuper:

The kid left a suicide note and said, "now I will be famous." Why is the media GIVING HIM MEDIA TIME? They are telling others that are mentally unstable similar to this an example of how he is becoming famous.

 

Talk about it but NEVER put his face or name on the air. Let him be a nameless and faceless murderer.

I was thinking the same thing this morning. A shooter should never be glorified.

Are you telling me that an under cover officer shouldnt act in a situation like this because he happened to be patrolling alone?

We weren't talking about undercover police officers.

I was thinking the same thing this morning. A shooter should never be glorified.

 

The national media would say they are not glorifying them and would argue that point. Local newspapers can be different.

 

That is why I say they should never be identified. Rather a nameless and faceless murderer.

 

For some, ANY MENTION makes them famous. Some would love to have Charles Manson's famous. To them, being ANYTHING is better than nothing.

I'll let anyone of you choose the pistol of your choice, and I'll take the M-16 or AK-47. Put a 100 yds between us and we'll see who goes down first.

 

If these fools want to put a bullet in their ear, that's fine by me. Why do they feel the need to take others with them?

 

First off, the whole commando reference is absurd. I know you didnt make it but it was thrown out there. If I am 100 yds away, I am on the floor trying to get out just like anyone else. However, at 20 yds and in serious danger...I'm protecting myself and family vigorously.

 

I am not sure what you are talking about though when it comes to taking others with them? The object is to take out the shooter not those he is shooting at...he has proven he can do that pretty well on his own!

We weren't talking about undercover police officers.

 

You made the point that you have to have numbers...