September 18, 200719 yr Not assuming that as I fully believe that they are not. Just if they are and want to thank God for their blessings, what is the issue?And if they don't believe in God or Jesus and want to proclaim that, then what is the issue?
September 18, 200719 yr Author And if they don't believe in God or Jesus and want to proclaim that, then what is the issue? Did she point out everyone that had nothing to do with her award? She took a calculated shot at Christians. I was offended and let FOX and ABC know about it. I did the same for the Sally Field comment and let the FCC know about that one and the allowing of that curse word more and more on the public airwaves. If she had taken a calculated shot at African Americans and want to point out that no AA's had anything to do with her award and said the same thing about Martin Luther King, what would the response be? What about if it was Muslim as someone pointed out? What about if she took the same shot at Guru, the BGP armies would be in an uproar. I think you get my point.
September 18, 200719 yr I would say if a celebrity used the word to describe African Americans that is greatly offensive to them, they would be lamblasted for it. Think Don Imus. And yet, they can get on the air and do something as they have done about God and Jesus and Hollyweird celebrates them. People defend them. People think they are great. That should give you an idea of the mindset of so many in Hollyweird. Exactly:thumb: :thumb:
September 18, 200719 yr Must have missed Kosovo or Ireland, huh? :sssh: Must have missed, "for the most part", huh?
September 18, 200719 yr What about if she took the same shot at Guru, the BGP armies would be in an uproar. I think you get my point. With the exception that the Guru is kind of a one man army... :sssh:
September 18, 200719 yr Author That you're against the 1st amendment? Nope, she has the right to say what she wishes. She doesn't have control of the consequences though. And if the outrage is great enough, her bosses that stuff her moneypockets will pull their funding. Example, Don Imus. As far as the Sally Field issue and the 1st amendment, it is accepted that some words are not accepted or even allowed in certain forums. She purposely used one that in my opinion should be one of those words and should be fined for it.
September 18, 200719 yr Nope, she has the right to say what she wishes. She doesn't have control of the consequences though. And if the outrage is great enough, her bosses that stuff her moneypockets will pull their funding. Example, Don Imus. As far as the Sally Field issue and the 1st amendment, it is accepted that some words are not accepted or even allowed in certain forums. She purposely used one that in my opinion should be one of those words and should be fined for it. I'm just talking about Kathy Griffin and her Constitutional right to say what she wishes and embrace (or not) the religion of her choice.
September 18, 200719 yr Author I'm just talking about Kathy Griffin and her Constitutional right to say what she wishes and embrace (or not) the religion of her choice. As it is the constitutional right of those offending by her words to say so and if the pressure/outrage is great enough for consequences to fall on her shoulders, i.e. Don Imus. She has the freedom to say what she wants but not the freedom of consequences to say what she wants.
September 18, 200719 yr I'm just talking about Kathy Griffin and her Constitutional right to say what she wishes and embrace (or not) the religion of her choice. Griffith did not say she did not believe in God (Jesus). By her comments she showed she believes in him. What is hard for me as a Christian is to hear someone discrace the name of Jesus like she did. She is worse than an unbeliever. I pray for her soul.
September 18, 200719 yr As it is the constitutional right of those offending by her words to say so and if the pressure/outrage is great enough for consequences to fall on her shoulders, i.e. Don Imus. She has the freedom to say what she wants but not the freedom of consequences to say what she wants. I hear where you are coming from LBC but also HHS. I might disagree with her choice of place and decision concerning God but those are her choices. Last year during the Super Bowl win Tony Dungy had ample opportunity to praise God in such a forum and chose to do so. This woman had a similar forum that she received and chose to do the opposite. I might feel good about one and bad about the other but I think that's the nature of the American experiment and the Bill of Rights. I guess it's the Baptist roots in me.
September 18, 200719 yr Griffith did not say she did not believe in God (Jesus). By her comments she showed she believes in him. What is hard for me as a Christian is to hear someone discrace the name of Jesus like she did. She is worse than an unbeliever. I pray for her soul.How do you feel about Allah, Buddah, Muhammed, The Great Spirit, Brahman, Waheguru, Hari, etc.
September 18, 200719 yr Author I hear where you are coming from LBC but also HHS. I might disagree with her choice of place and decision concerning God but those are her choices. Last year during the Super Bowl win Tony Dungy had ample opportunity to praise God in such a forum and chose to do so. This woman had a similar forum that she received and chose to do the opposite. I might feel good about one and bad about the other but I think that's the nature of the American experiment and the Bill of Rights. I guess it's the Baptist roots in me. I absolutely agree with you. But isn't also in my rights to say I don't appreciate her words and lodge my complaint? And if there are enough complaints isn't it in her employer's rights to say, no more on the $$$$.
September 18, 200719 yr I absolutely agree with you. But isn't also in my rights to say I don't appreciate her words and lodge my complaint? And if there are enough complaints isn't it in her employer's rights to say, no more on the $$$$.You absolutely have the right to protest what she said.
September 18, 200719 yr I absolutely agree with you. But isn't also in my rights to say I don't appreciate her words and lodge my complaint? And if there are enough complaints isn't it in her employer's rights to say, no more on the $$$$. Yes. Never meant differently.
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