Even when a Kentucky school wins a state championship, there are often numerous schools in Ohio that don't win their state championship, but they have beaten our state champ in the regular season. Any reasons for this?

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Even when a Kentucky school wins a state championship, there are often numerous schools in Ohio that don't win their state championship, but they have beaten our state champ in the regular season. Any reasons for this?

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Even when a Kentucky school wins a state championship, there are often numerous schools in Ohio that don't win their state championship, but they have beaten our state champ in the regular season. Any reasons for this?

There are over three times as many schools in Ohio playing football and they play the game at a higher level.

Even when a Kentucky school wins a state championship, there are often numerous schools in Ohio that don't win their state championship, but they have beaten our state champ in the regular season. Any reasons for this?

Here is a little supporting evidence. In 2002 Russell lost to Portsmouth West (OH) in the regular season 14-28. Russell had a very talented team that year and eventually lost to state champion Breathitt Co 27-28 in which they lead virtually the entire game and arguably should have won. The game was at Breathitt also. Portsmouth got blown out in the state finals 45-13 by Kenton, OH. I saw both games and clearly the Ohio schools were superior. The thread that Ram provided is a good read.

Also in 2002 though Trinity played Elder, Ohio's eventual Division I champ that year, and beat them 44-20.

 

More often than not though, Ohio football is superior.

But......in comparison KY basketball is superior. There have been other threads discussing this. I'm fairly close to some top players in Ohio and there programs don't compare to KY's.

Here is a little supporting evidence. In 2002 Russell lost to Portsmouth West (OH) in the regular season 14-28. Russell had a very talented team that year and eventually lost to state champion Breathitt Co 27-28 in which they lead virtually the entire game and arguably should have won. The game was at Breathitt also. Portsmouth got blown out in the state finals 45-13 by Kenton, OH. I saw both games and clearly the Ohio schools were superior. The thread that Ram provided is a good read.

Kenton that year was awesome and probably would have beaten alot of other Ohio schools. Ben Mauk Ohio's Mr. Football that year was their QB and he threw for like almost 7,000 yards that SEASON and something like 70 some TDs in 2002 alone.

Russell and Portsmouth West are running teams. And when you play teams that spread it out and they score quick and often it is hard to win.

 

Check out the other thread Ram mentioned. This is one topic that can be repeated over and over and usually get the same results which are: Ohio High Schools overall put more emphasis on football, just like Kentucky does in Basketball.

Kenton that year was awesome and probably would have beaten alot of other Ohio schools. Ben Mauk Ohio's Mr. Football that year was their QB and he threw for like almost 7,000 yards that SEASON and something like 70 some TDs in 2002 alone.

Russell and Portsmouth West are running teams. And when you play teams that spread it out and they score quick and often it is hard to win.

 

Check out the other thread Ram mentioned. This is one topic that can be repeated over and over and usually get the same results which are: Ohio High Schools overall put more emphasis on football, just like Kentucky does in Basketball.

I know Maulk and Kenton well, that is my home town. Your point about KY basketball was exactly what I said in post #7

There are over 750 teams in Ohio. Out of those teams, there are going to be some very good ones. There are about 230 teams in KY. (I dont know the exact numbers). Ohio is a pretty big state and the population is more than KY. Is the football better?

 

GCL schools win over KY schools because the GCL schools are carrying 800-1500 students. For every good player a KY team has, a GCL team 2-3 good ones just like him.

Here is my post from the previous thread, and I still stand by it, population is not the reason, putting more emphasis on football is.

 

I think state size has less to do with the quality of football in Kentucky versus Ohio.

 

These stats are provided by the 2006 Census:

 

Ohio Population 11,478,006

Kentucky Population 4,206,074

 

Ohio Square Mileage 40,948

Kentucky Square Mileage 39,728

 

Ohio Persons per Square Mile 277

Kentucky Persons per Square Mile 101

 

On the surface it looks like Ohio has a distinct population advantage, but when you factor in that Ohio has roughly 700 football playing schools versus Kentucky who has roughly 200 playing schools, you get:

 

Ohio 16,397 persons for every football playing school

Kentucky 21,030 persons for every football playing school

 

The above figures would debunk the argument that population would be the deciding factor in Ohio quality of football versus Kentucky quality of football. All though this is not a scientific proven argument it does have some sound usefullness.

 

Personally, I think it is simply mindset. Ohio is a football state, they have the Pro Football hall of fame, The Coaches Cradle, one of the most historic football colleges in Ohio State, two NFL franchises, several arena teams at different levels, the College Football Hall of Fame, many successful college football teams at different levels of play, and professional football would probable not exist if not for the historic revitalization that Ohio brought to professional football in its infancy.

 

Ohio once had professional teams in Ironton, Portsmouth, Canton, Dayton, Columbus, Cincinnati, Cleveland, and several others that I can not remember.

 

Kentucky just does not make football as important as Ohio does, kids in Ohio dream of playing football for their local school, they dream of playing football for Ohio State, the dream of playing for the Bengals or Browns. Kids in Kentucky are divided about basketball and football. I think football has come a long way in Kentucky, but has not reached the dominance level that it has in Ohio.

 

I know it may seem simplistic, but if you want Kentucky to be as competitive as Ohio in football, the state, the schools, the fans, the parents, and the players have to make it a priority to build their football programs. This means great facilities, great atmosphere, scheduling other events around football, and using media sources.

^I saw this Ram in the other thread. Great Post! and I agree with it.

^I saw this Ram in the other thread. Great Post! and I agree with it.

 

:thumb: Thanks. I saw were population was coming up again.

I agree with Ram. Thanks for the facts.

:thumb: Thanks. I saw were population was coming up again.

I can explain why population, regardless of per team basis, makes the difference.