August 13, 200719 yr This is why if the election were held today my vote would be cast for Mitt Romney. :thumb:
August 13, 200719 yr So were the other affairs right wing plants too. Did somehow the right wing conspiracists see that Clinton was going to be President someday and send a female for him to have an affair with when he was governor of Arkansas? Hilary is an enabler. Plain and simple. She, throughout his Presidency, made excuses for his actions, mostly blaming others for his actions. Even trying to sell us the idea that the affairs were concoctions of the right wing. But for argument sake, let's say that Monica was a right wing plant. Could Bill still said, I don't know, NO, I AM MARRIED!!!!!! Whether she was or was not is irrelevent. He did it and she blamed a right wing conspiracy. That is like saying he had heart problems because there was a right wing conspiracy to plant McDonald's in front of his jogging routes to entice him to eat the fries, clogging his arteries and causing the heart problems. Let's see.....young girl showing an old guy her thong? What could go wrong there? LOL I mean it's not like some rebublican senator or congressmen actually going out and looking for it through the services of Washingtons most famous madam. I'am sorry, I missed your thread showing your destain on that one.
August 13, 200719 yr So were the other affairs right wing plants too. Did somehow the right wing conspiracists see that Clinton was going to be President someday and send a female for him to have an affair with when he was governor of Arkansas? Hilary is an enabler. Plain and simple. She, throughout his Presidency, made excuses for his actions, mostly blaming others for his actions. Even trying to sell us the idea that the affairs were concoctions of the right wing. But for argument sake, let's say that Monica was a right wing plant. Could Bill still said, I don't know, NO, I AM MARRIED!!!!!! Whether she was or was not is irrelevent. He did it and she blamed a right wing conspiracy. That is like saying he had heart problems because there was a right wing conspiracy to plant McDonald's in front of his jogging routes to entice him to eat the fries, clogging his arteries and causing the heart problems. Sounds like any of a number of married women I know who've stood by their spouses. Doesn't sound like anything except a woman who's trying desperately NOT to believe her husband cheated on her. Dang that Clinton woman for being human!
August 13, 200719 yr Let's see.....young girl showing an old guy her thong? What could go wrong there? LOL I mean it's not like some rebublican senator or congressmen actually going out and looking for it through the services of Washingtons most famous madam. I'am sorry, I mist your thread showing your destain on that one. Okay here it is. Any husband who goes out and cheats on their wife is scum in my book. That satisfy you now!!!!!!!!!!! Glad to see you are lumping Bill with those people who have no willpower to say no to things that are plain out wrong. Glad to see that you are admitting he has no morals to stand up AGAINST what is right, NO MATTER the temptation. I listened to an interview with Josh Hamilton yesterday about his faith in Jesus Christ as his personal Lord and Savior and he said something that covers it. It is not about the temptations we have cause we are all going to have them. It is about OUR choices. Pretty good words from Josh Hamilton.
August 13, 200719 yr Sounds like any of a number of married women I know who've stood by their spouses. Doesn't sound like anything except a woman who's trying desperately NOT to believe her husband cheated on her. Dang that Clinton woman for being human! I agree, EXCEPT she found out her husband did do it and never backed off her claim of a right-wing conspiracy out to get her husband. I never recall her coming out saying the fault lied with her husband and she wanted to apologize for the claims of those women lying about her husband. To me her lack of doing that was for policital purposes and not any number of married women who have stood by their spouses.
August 13, 200719 yr I agree, EXCEPT she found out her husband did do it and never backed off her claim of a right-wing conspiracy out to get her husband. I never recall her coming out saying the fault lied with her husband and she wanted to apologize for the claims of those women lying about her husband. To me her lack of doing that was for policital purposes and not any number of married women who have stood by their spouses. We'll never know, most likely. But, I'm not willing to assume anything in a situation as complicated as a woman finding out her husband's a cheater. You want to cast stones, go right ahead. To you, it seems a simple matter, but trust me...there are no simple matters when you find out your husband's been cheating on you.
August 13, 200719 yr We'll never know, most likely. But, I'm not willing to assume anything in a situation as complicated as a woman finding out her husband's a cheater. You want to cast stones, go right ahead. To you, it seems a simple matter, but trust me...there are no simple matters when you find out your husband's been cheating on you. Don't have a husband who has done that. Have had a sister that has been through it. Have had another close family member who has been through it. So while it is not personal, it is close. And I am not casting stones in any way shape or form on her decision to stay with Bill. As a Christian, I applaud that decision to try and work it out. My problem is her defense of her husband and saying it is ALL those women lying about him, calling them out on national television, THEN finding out her husband is a liar and what they were saying was true, and never feeling the need to go back on national television and tell those of us who are labeled as right wing that it wasn't about US lying but her husband lying. She had the guts to stand up there and say what horrible people were on the right wing to do this to her poor innocent little husband but not the guts to stand up there and say she was wrong about the right wing. She does that and my opinion on her would change. And casting stones is about a person's eternal judgement not a worldly judgement. This is not an eternal judgement that we are discussing here.
August 13, 200719 yr A married man who cheats on his wife has moral deficits, and yes DD I do think the same holds true for Republicans and have expressed my DISDAIN for those that do so many times. That is cut and dry. I find it very ammusing that you will dismiss Clinton's lack of character be saying that "everyone does it". When he is stupid enough to do it while he is the most public official in the country shows a complete lack of good sense and judgement. It is my opinion that the only reason that Hillary is still married to Bill is that they both see political advantages to it. Do they live together?
August 13, 200719 yr I support a woman who will try to save her marriage. I don't think my wife would divorce me if I strayed but would find widowhood an attractive option. I don't think we can judge Hillary on this one issue. It's impossible to know what her motives are. Besides, it's Hillary. There are plenty of issues to judge her on. I will admit I have a higher opinion of her than when her campaign first started.
August 13, 200719 yr A married man who cheats on his wife has moral deficits, and yes DD I do think the same holds true for Republicans and have expressed my DISDAIN for those that do so many times. That is cut and dry. I find it very ammusing that you will dismiss Clinton's lack of character be saying that "everyone does it". When he is stupid enough to do it while he is the most public official in the country shows a complete lack of good sense and judgement. It is my opinion that the only reason that Hillary is still married to Bill is that they both see political advantages to it. Do they live together? I just find it odd that every time infidelity comes up, the republic party wants to shout out...BILL CLINTON, instead of RUDY or NEWT or THE GOOD REV. Haggard. So typical and sooooooo predictable. LOL
August 13, 200719 yr I just find it odd that every time infidelity comes up, the republic party wants to shout out...BILL CLINTON, instead of RUDY or NEWT or THE GOOD REV. Haggard. So typical and sooooooo predictable. LOL One difference on the last one: Rev Haggard didnt cheat with another woman.
August 13, 200719 yr I just find it odd that every time infidelity comes up, the republic party wants to shout out...BILL CLINTON, instead of RUDY or NEWT or THE GOOD REV. Haggard. So typical and sooooooo predictable. LOL No more predictable then you defending Bill's behavior by deflecting the attention form Clinton's lack of moral character to other peoples actions. The bottom line is your hero has no moral character at all and no matter how much you try to deflect that attention away from Clinton you can't. If in your mind Clinton's philanering behavior is justified because of the examples of other doing the same that you cited then I am sure you have no problem at all with Ernie Fletcher and his hiring practices since Democrats have been doing the same thing for years. Am I correct?
August 13, 200719 yr No more predictable then you defending Bill's behavior by deflecting the attention form Clinton's lack of moral character to other peoples actions. The bottom line is your hero has no moral character at all and no matter how much you try to deflect that attention away from Clinton you can't. If in your mind Clinton's philanering behavior is justified because of the examples of other doing the same that you cited then I am sure you have no problem at all with Ernie Fletcher and his hiring practices since Democrats have been doing the same thing for years. Am I correct? What does Bill's philandering have to do with Hilary?
August 13, 200719 yr No more predictable then you defending Bill's behavior by deflecting the attention form Clinton's lack of moral character to other peoples actions. The bottom line is your hero has no moral character at all and no matter how much you try to deflect that attention away from Clinton you can't. If in your mind Clinton's philanering behavior is justified because of the examples of other doing the same that you cited then I am sure you have no problem at all with Ernie Fletcher and his hiring practices since Democrats have been doing the same thing for years. Am I correct? AT.....take a chill pill. What Clinton did was wrong, but to the point that it is brought up by you guys every week on BGP and right wing talk without mentioning Newt or Rudy or any number of immoral religious right type gets old. Those attacking Clinton do not have clean hands.
August 13, 200719 yr Last time I checked neither Newt nor the Rev. Haggard were running for President.
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