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RockMom, name some other reasons. If there isn't the grounds for which Jesus mentioned there are no grounds or reasons for a Divorce. If there is a Divorce, for not the reason again in Matthew 19... they cannot remarry.

Read 1 Corinthians 7:10-15.

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To the married I give charge, not I but the Lord, that the wife should not separate from her husband ... and that the husband should not divorce his wife. To the rest I say, not the Lord, ... But if the unbelieving partner desires to separate, let it be so; in such a case the brother or sister is not bound. For God has called us to peace. (1 Corinthians 7:10-15, RSV)

 

 

According to the Catholic Church's canon law, the Pauline Privilege does not apply when either of the partners was a Christian at the time of marriage. Under Roman Catholicism, the Petrine Privilege may be invoked if only one of the partners was baptized at the time of marriage

Petrine Privilege or a decree in favor of the faith is a provision in the Canon Law (Catholic Church) granting a previously married person the right to marry under certain specific circumstances. The implementation of this procedure is reserved to The Pope. It involves the circumstance where one of the parties in the marriage is unbaptized and the other is baptized. If either party wants to become Catholic or wants to marry a Catholic this marriage can be dissolved, permitting the person to become Catholic or to marry a Catholic. Thus, the Pope may act in favor of the Christian faith. Another example may be that a Protestant who is married to an unbaptized man falls in love with a Catholic. The Pope may dissolve the marriage of the Protestant to facilitate his or her marriage to the Catholic. This is done in favor of the faith of his or her Catholic fiancé.

HHSDad: .

 

To the married I give charge, not I but the Lord, that the wife should not separate from her husband ... and that the husband should not divorce his wife. To the rest I say, not the Lord, ... But if the unbelieving partner desires to separate, let it be so; in such a case the brother or sister is not bound. For God has called us to peace. (1 Corinthians 7:10-15, RSV)

 

 

According to the Catholic Church's canon law, the Pauline Privilege does not apply when either of the partners was a Christian at the time of marriage. Under Roman Catholicism, the Petrine Privilege may be invoked if only one of the partners was baptized at the time of marriage

Is the Pauline Privilege a grounds for divorce or annulment?

A reason for annulment is called an diriment impediment to the marriage. Prohibitory impediments (which no longer exist in the Latin Code, CIC83) make entering a marriage wrong but do not invalidate the marriage, such as being betrothed to another person at the time of the wedding; diriment impediments, such as being brother and sister, or being married to another person at the time of the wedding, prevent such a marriage from being contracted at all. Such unions are called putative marriages.

Diriment impediments include:

  • Consanguinity which means being from the same lineage as another person
  • Insanity precluding ability to consent
  • Not intending, when marrying, to remain faithful to the spouse (simulation of consent)
  • One partner had been deceived by the other in order to obtain consent, and if the partner had been aware of the truth, would not have consented to marry
  • Abduction of the woman, with the intent to compel her to marry (known as raptus), constitutes an impediment as long as she remains in the kidnapper's power. (In theory, the abduction of a man also constitutes an impediment, but no man has applied for annulment on these grounds.)
  • Failure to adhere to requirements of canon law for marriages, such as clandestinity
  • the couple killed the spouse of one of them in order to be free to marry
  • the couple committed adultery, and one of the couple killed the spouse of one of them, in order to be free to marry

Some impediments can be dispensed, in which the Church exempts a couple, prior to the marriage, to the obligation to conform to the canon law. While some relationships can not have the impediment of consanguity dispensed, a marriage can be sanctioned between cousins. This renders the marriage valid, and so non-annulable. Again, if an invalid marriage has been contracted, and the diriment impediment can be removed, a convalidation or sanatio in radice can be performed to make the marriage valid.

Is the Pauline Privilege a grounds for divorce or annulment?

 

It is not grounds for annulment.

It is not grounds for annulment.

 

Let me clarify...it is neither a divorce nor an annulment. It's a state of dissolution in and of itself.

A reason for annulment is called an diriment impediment to the marriage. Prohibitory impediments (which no longer exist in the Latin Code, CIC83) make entering a marriage wrong but do not invalidate the marriage, such as being betrothed to another person at the time of the wedding; diriment impediments, such as being brother and sister, or being married to another person at the time of the wedding, prevent such a marriage from being contracted at all. Such unions are called putative marriages.

Diriment impediments include:

  • Consanguinity which means being from the same lineage as another person
  • Insanity precluding ability to consent
  • Not intending, when marrying, to remain faithful to the spouse (simulation of consent)
  • One partner had been deceived by the other in order to obtain consent, and if the partner had been aware of the truth, would not have consented to marry
  • Abduction of the woman, with the intent to compel her to marry (known as raptus), constitutes an impediment as long as she remains in the kidnapper's power. (In theory, the abduction of a man also constitutes an impediment, but no man has applied for annulment on these grounds.)
  • Failure to adhere to requirements of canon law for marriages, such as clandestinity
  • the couple killed the spouse of one of them in order to be free to marry
  • the couple committed adultery, and one of the couple killed the spouse of one of them, in order to be free to marry

Some impediments can be dispensed, in which the Church exempts a couple, prior to the marriage, to the obligation to conform to the canon law. While some relationships can not have the impediment of consanguity dispensed, a marriage can be sanctioned between cousins. This renders the marriage valid, and so non-annulable. Again, if an invalid marriage has been contracted, and the diriment impediment can be removed, a convalidation or sanatio in radice can be performed to make the marriage valid.

 

Man, thats pretty confusing, I only find 2 reasons a person can get divorced in the bible:

 

Adultery: Jesus said, "And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery," (Matt. 19:9). The word in Greek for immorality is porneia from which we get the word pornography. Sexual immorality, i.e., adultery, is a grounds for divorce according to Jesus.

Abandonment: In addressing the issue of husband and wife, Paul said, "Yet if the unbelieving one leaves, let him leave; the brother or the sister is not under bondage in such cases, but God has called us to peace," (1 Cor. 7:15). -- You could also equate this to death of the spouse.

After all the quotes and links presented on BGP in the past few weeks, I wonder if the Pope knows as much about Catholicism as I do.:creepy:

Man, thats pretty confusing, I only find 2 reasons a person can get divorced in the bible:

 

Adultery: Jesus said, "And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery," (Matt. 19:9). The word in Greek for immorality is porneia from which we get the word pornography. Sexual immorality, i.e., adultery, is a grounds for divorce according to Jesus.

Abandonment: In addressing the issue of husband and wife, Paul said, "Yet if the unbelieving one leaves, let him leave; the brother or the sister is not under bondage in such cases, but God has called us to peace," (1 Cor. 7:15). -- You could also equate this to death of the spouse.

 

 

Question...

 

People get divorced everyday for reasons other than the two you see in the Bible. How do you feel about remarriage if there is a divorce for any other reason than adultery or abandonment?

After all the quotes and links presented on BGP in the past few weeks, I wonder if the Pope knows as much about Catholicism as I do.:creepy:

 

I'm pretty sure he does. :D

Man, thats pretty confusing, I only find 2 reasons a person can get divorced in the bible:

 

Adultery: Jesus said, "And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery," (Matt. 19:9). The word in Greek for immorality is porneia from which we get the word pornography. Sexual immorality, i.e., adultery, is a grounds for divorce according to Jesus.

Abandonment: In addressing the issue of husband and wife, Paul said, "Yet if the unbelieving one leaves, let him leave; the brother or the sister is not under bondage in such cases, but God has called us to peace," (1 Cor. 7:15). -- You could also equate this to death of the spouse.

 

Actually, in the Corinthinian verse you quote, I understand that to mean someon who isn't Christian. I don't think that would fall under abandonment.

Man, thats pretty confusing, I only find 2 reasons a person can get divorced in the bible:

 

Adultery: Jesus said, "And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery," (Matt. 19:9). The word in Greek for immorality is porneia from which we get the word pornography. Sexual immorality, i.e., adultery, is a grounds for divorce according to Jesus.

Abandonment: In addressing the issue of husband and wife, Paul said, "Yet if the unbelieving one leaves, let him leave; the brother or the sister is not under bondage in such cases, but God has called us to peace," (1 Cor. 7:15). -- You could also equate this to death of the spouse.

 

 

The list I posted was reasons for annulment, not divorce.

Question...

 

People get divorced everyday for reasons other than the two you see in the Bible. How do you feel about remarriage if there is a divorce for any other reason than adultery or abandonment?

 

God still sees them married, so the bible doesn't see the remarriage as being married and are therefore committing a sin, thats not how I feel, but what the bible states.

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Dad, I know the passage well. I'm not sure of the point of grounds for Divorce besides Unfaithfulness. If you are married to an unbeliever and they want to depart, hey let them go. There you are not trying to keep an unwanted person in the marriage, because they might bring you down or make you unhappy. There is also "Adultry of the heart". This is where your mate loves another, but hasn't finished the act with the person.

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