You say you want a Revolution....Welllllll....

[rockmom]

Today, 03:22 PM

#5

Fastbreak Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In the gym... and loving it. Posts: 6,867

I've had it with politics and politicians of all flavors. The American people and the America I was raised to believe in have taken a back seat to agenda driven power plays. I'm tired of left wing fruit cakes cramming filth and pornography in our faces under the guise of freedom of speech, and then raising three kinds of hell over the Ten Commandments being posted in a public place, or a high school senior mentioning her thanks to Jesus Christ in her valedictory speech. We get fed tons of pork barrel schemes while our troops fighting to preserve our liberties do without the tools they need to finish the job we sent them to do. I cannot believe the arrogance and condescention that I see coming from Washington. I cannot believe that I spend nearly five months a year to fund a government supposedly in place to look out for the best interests of my family and me. It's time for a second American Revolution. We can start by tossing out the clowns supposedly representing us in Washington. Republican, Democrat or other, they all need to go.

[Hearsay]

Today, 03:22 PM

#5

Fastbreak Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In the gym... and loving it. Posts: 6,867

I've had it with politics and politicians of all flavors. The American people and the America I was raised to believe in have taken a back seat to agenda driven power plays. I'm tired of left wing fruit cakes cramming filth and pornography in our faces under the guise of freedom of speech, and then raising three kinds of hell over the Ten Commandments being posted in a public place, or a high school senior mentioning her thanks to Jesus Christ in her valedictory speech. We get fed tons of pork barrel schemes while our troops fighting to preserve our liberties do without the tools they need to finish the job we sent them to do. I cannot believe the arrogance and condescention that I see coming from Washington. I cannot believe that I spend nearly five months a year to fund a government supposedly in place to look out for the best interests of my family and me. It's time for a second American Revolution. We can start by tossing out the clowns supposedly representing us in Washington. Republican, Democrat or other, they all need to go.

 

. . . But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

 

- Declaration of Independence

[Guest Bluto]

. . . But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

 

- Declaration of Independence

I know there are lot's of problems, but have we reached that point yet...?

[Hasbeen]

Long years at my job, being a UK football fan, and having seen ten different men in the white house has led me to the conclusion that no matter how bad the man in charge is, we can always find a worse one. We must vote carefully for all national offices. We must demand an end to all the political doublespeak and insist that any candidate who tries to gain office merely by pointing out the shortcomings of an opponent or an incumbent must also detail an alternate plan complete with the means of financing it.

[Hearsay]

I know there are lot's of problems, but have we reached that point yet...?

 

We may not be AT absolute Despotism, but all that the text requires is that their actions "evince a design toward" absolute Despotism. I believe we HAVE reached a point where a majority of politicians have that as their "design."

[Hasbeen]

We may not be AT absolute Despotism, but all that the text requires is that their actions "evince a design toward" absolute Despotism. I believe we HAVE reached a point where a majority of politicians have that as their "design."

 

 

While that may be the goal of a majority of politicians, how can it be possible given the huge split in govermental branches?

[Hearsay]

While that may be the goal of a majority of politicians, how can it be possible given the huge split in govermental branches?

 

I am not sure what you mean by that????

[HHSDad]

Tom Clancy's book, Debt of Honor had an interesting solution at the end of the book.

[swamprat]

I know there are lot's of problems, but have we reached that point yet...?

When 78% of the population is against a bill (Immigration Reform) and the Senate and President are hell bent on making it law anyway, I'd say we're pretty close.

[Habib]

I don't think our problem is with the government, it's with the citizens. We can only reach a point of absolute despotism through complete voter apathy and ignorance.

[Fastbreak]

I don't think our problem is with the government, it's with the citizens. We can only reach a point of absolute despotism through complete voter apathy and ignorance.

When conservatives vote for republican candidates who promise fiscal conservatism and turn around when elected to spend like drunken sailors, and liberals vote for democrats to uphold their principles only to get a bunch of self-aggrandizing flip-flopping loudmouths what's the point?

 

Nothing promotes apathy better than the kind of power hungry clowns we now have in Washington. When our elected officials consistently promise one thing and deliver another, how long can we convince voters their votes actually count?

[Fastbreak]

I’m tired of being told I don’t pay enough in taxes… I work nearly five months out of the year to pay my fair share as is. The only recourse is for my family to economize more and budget more tightly to provide our government another month’s worth of pay to squander on more vote getting pork we don’t need and cannot possibly benefit from.

 

Why can’t our government economize, by cutting wasteful programs that do nothing but buy votes for weasels we don’t need guiding our nation?

 

It’s time for a major revolution in the IRS and our tax structure. We’re getting hosed.

 

This is the greatest nation the world has ever known. We didn’t get here by giving handouts. It’s time for everyone in reasonable health and mental acuity to get a job and help pull the load. It’s time to give the boot to lazy bums milking the system for handouts. It’s time to punish employers who bend the rules by paying ridiculously low wages to illegal residents who pay no income tax and soak up many of our free social services.

 

I could go on, and probably will, but this is a good start… :lol:

[Habib]

When conservatives vote for republican candidates who promise fiscal conservatism and turn around when elected to spend like drunken sailors, and liberals vote for democrats to uphold their principles only to get a bunch of self-aggrandizing flip-flopping loudmouths what's the point?

 

Nothing promotes apathy better than the kind of power hungry clowns we now have in Washington. When our elected officials consistently promise one thing and deliver another, how long can we convince voters their votes actually count?

 

I agree with you in part. But considering only 40% of the population showed up to vote in the mid-term election, and I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of them pulled the straight party ticket whether or not they were happy with their party's results, it's pretty easy for these power hungry clowns to get into office. All you need is a "D" or an "R" next to your name and people are going to vote for you.

[Fastbreak]

I agree with you in part. But considering only 40% of the population showed up to vote in the mid-term election, and I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of them pulled the straight party ticket whether or not they were happy with their party's results, it's pretty easy for these power hungry clowns to get into office. All you need is a "D" or an "R" next to your name and people are going to vote for you.

My point is that we've reached a place where only 40% of us were deluded enough to actually believe our vote could make a difference.

 

When we consistently get the results we get by putting Bozos into office, I'll be amazed if 40% turn out for the next election.

 

Were the 60% who didn't vote genuinely apathetic, or simply smart enough to realize it doesn't matter who we send to Washington, we're still gonna get hosed?

 

Apathy in this regard is self-sustaining.

[Habib]

My point is that we've reached a place where only 40% of us were deluded enough to actually believe our vote could make a difference.

 

When we consistently get the results we get by putting Bozos into office, I'll be amazed if 40% turn out for the next election.

 

Were the 60% who didn't vote genuinely apathetic, or simply smart enough to realize it doesn't matter who we send to Washington, we're still gonna get hosed?

 

Apathy in this regard is self-sustaining.

 

We get hosed because the population isn't intelligent enough to do otherwise. We have two parties, both of which people are blindly loyal to, and a population that absolutely refuses to research their candidates and support views that are actually relevant. Domestic partner benefits at UK and UL is emerging as the first issue of our gubernatorial race. Honestly, Kentucky, this is more important than the economy or rising pension costs?

 

Why do you have to have millions and millions of dollars to run a campaign? To make cheesy, phony, deceitful commercials that anyone with a 4th grade education can see straight through? If the population cared, these ridiculous commercials would be superfluous.

 

If anything, we need an overall of our electoral college.