Franklin County 15 Western Hills 0

[KY Thorobred]

FCHS 15 Runs 14 Hits 1 Error

WHHS 0 Runs 2 Hits 5 Errors

 

County had 4 2B's, 1 3B, 1 K

Hills had 0 2B, 0 3B, 7 K's

[dirtycleats]

Thorobred,,,you called that one right. It surprised me how much FC dominated Western Hills

[TheCoach]

yes, I was there as well, very much dominated by FC. I want to say that FC had like 6 or 7 bunt hits. and they just kept bunting. But win or lose they both are still off to the regional.

[JohnLex7]

But win or lose they both are still off to the regional.

 

Yes, Western Hills will get to play in the 11th Region tournament, along with Madison Southern, and Bryan Station, (who each had losing records) while teams like Tates Creek and LCA and Lafayette are home. Somehow, there has to be a better way.

[TheCoach]

Yes, Western Hills will get to play in the 11th Region tournament, along with Madison Southern, and Bryan Station, (who each had losing records) while teams like Tates Creek and LCA and Lafayette are home. Somehow, there has to be a better way.

 

I totally agree, there is no reason that Those 3 shouldnt be in this regional tournament somewhere. I mean Tates Creek is ridiculous because they were around the top 10 all season and they get knocked out in the 1st round of district by they #2 team in the state, and even if they win they would play the #1 team in the state. But this could just be their districts time of being up instead of down.

[JohnLex7]

I totally agree, there is no reason that Those 3 shouldnt be in this regional tournament somewhere. I mean Tates Creek is ridiculous because they were around the top 10 all season and they get knocked out in the 1st round of district by they #2 team in the state, and even if they win they would play the #1 team in the state. But this could just be their districts time of being up instead of down.

 

Thing is, when is the 43d actually "down"? If you look at the present makeup of the 43d, leaving aside the fact that one of those 5 teams has played for the state championship each of the last 4 years, one of those 5 teams has won the region 6 of the last 8 years (2006-Lex Cath, 2005-LCA, 2004-Lafayette, 2003-Dunbar, 2002-Lex Cath, 1999-Lex Cath) and the only two years that they didn't win the region, one of those teams played for the regional. (Tates Creek 2000, Lex Cath 2001) It is quite possible that the loser of the 43d district championship game this year could win the state championship.

 

One possible solution is to split the Lexington teams into 3 districts instead of two, but that could lead to 6 teams from Lexington playing in the region, and I'm not sure that the surrounding counties would like that a whole lot.

[TheCoach]

Thing is, when is the 43d actually "down"? If you look at the present makeup of the 43d, leaving aside the fact that one of those 5 teams has played for the state championship each of the last 4 years, one of those 5 teams has won the region 6 of the last 8 years (2006-Lex Cath, 2005-LCA, 2004-Lafayette, 2003-Dunbar, 2002-Lex Cath, 1999-Lex Cath) and the only two years that they didn't win the region, one of those teams played for the regional. (Tates Creek 2000, Lex Cath 2001) It is quite possible that the loser of the 43d District this year could win the state championship.

 

One possible solution is to split the Lexington teams into 3 districts instead of two, but that could lead to 6 teams from Lexington playing in the region, and I'm not sure that the surrounding counties would like that a whole lot.

 

I agree that they are never really "down" it is just a long shot suggestion. I dont believe that they have to break the districts up into 3. But instead rework some of them to have more balance in the regional tournament. I guarentee that the 11th region champ is Dunbar or Lex Cath. With that being said what happens to the rest of the region. I believe it takes away from the fun and excitement when you do have teams below .500 making it because their district is week then you have a team who possibly is 3rd in the state and they are also 3rd in their district.

[dirtycleats]

Yes, Western Hills will get to play in the 11th Region tournament, along with Madison Southern, and Bryan Station, (who each had losing records) while teams like Tates Creek and LCA and Lafayette are home. Somehow, there has to be a better way.

Just because the situation is tough for the teams in the 41st district, you should not pick out the three teams that you did because quite frankly they all deserve to be in the tournament at this point as well, especially when compared to every other district in the state (besides the 41st). You can look at this another way, Tates Creek had there chance and gave it a very good effort and lost. I do not buy the fact you include Lex Christian and Lafayette in that category (they are above average yes, but any of the 3 teams you listed could beat them on any given night), because they are very beatable. You would probably be surprised but Bryan Station, Madison Southern and Western Hills has some very talented players on there team. Madison Southern has some of the best hitters in the region playing for them, they just dont have quite the numbers to field a full team that can make them even more competitive, Western Hills has some of the best young position talent in the Region and Bryan Station apparently can beat most of the teams on any given day if the pitching matchup works out. So my point is everyone is going to lose at some point along the way. The argument can be extended to a regional argument even moreso than a district one. Create two regions out of the Lexington area instead of one just like in Louisville.

[MLB50]

I totally agree, there is no reason that Those 3 shouldnt be in this regional tournament somewhere. I mean Tates Creek is ridiculous because they were around the top 10 all season and they get knocked out in the 1st round of district by they #2 team in the state, and even if they win they would play the #1 team in the state. But this could just be their districts time of being up instead of down.

 

 

Sometimes the rankings don't mean a thing. I would say this year would be one of those years. I have to agree that the Lexington schools are among the top in the state this year and have man-handled the Louisville schools but at the same time who did Tates Creek beat that are normally better than them. If no-one, then why are they ranked so high this year and not every other year. Trinity was ranked in the top 10 all year and I promise you they are down severely this year. Ballard is ranked very high and they are not real strong after you get by their #1. Danville (once ranked #4), LCA (once ranked #3), is in the same boat. After the #1 pitcher they are average at best.

 

It will be difficult for anyone to stop the 11th other than PRP. PRP can play with both of them.

[MLB50]

Thing is, when is the 43d actually "down"? If you look at the present makeup of the 43d, leaving aside the fact that one of those 5 teams has played for the state championship each of the last 4 years, one of those 5 teams has won the region 6 of the last 8 years (2006-Lex Cath, 2005-LCA, 2004-Lafayette, 2003-Dunbar, 2002-Lex Cath, 1999-Lex Cath) and the only two years that they didn't win the region, one of those teams played for the regional. (Tates Creek 2000, Lex Cath 2001) It is quite possible that the loser of the 43d district championship game this year could win the state championship.

 

One possible solution is to split the Lexington teams into 3 districts instead of two, but that could lead to 6 teams from Lexington playing in the region, and I'm not sure that the surrounding counties would like that a whole lot.

 

How do you suggest that 9 schools break into 3 districts? If they were going to do that, they would have left East/West Jess in the 11th with Woodford making up 12 schools. Move Franklin Co schools (8th region) & Madison Co Schools to other regions. This would make the most since Geographically.

BRYAN STATION, SCOTT CO, CATHOLIC, H CLAY

LAFAYETTE, LCA, EAST & WEST JESS

DUNBAR, T CRK, WOODFORD CO, SAYRE

[MLB50]

I agree that they are never really "down" it is just a long shot suggestion. I dont believe that they have to break the districts up into 3. But instead rework some of them to have more balance in the regional tournament. I guarentee that the 11th region champ is Dunbar or Lex Cath. With that being said what happens to the rest of the region. I believe it takes away from the fun and excitement when you do have teams below .500 making it because their district is week then you have a team who possibly is 3rd in the state and they are also 3rd in their district.

 

What a guarantee? Henry Clay playing on their home field has no chance at winning the district? I would have to say you may be over-looking them.

[hector]

They need to leave things as they are.

 

The 43rd district is the toughest in the state. In fact if you can win this district then you can win the state. Tates Creek is a quality program but they were not good enough this year to get out of their district.

 

The region is not always composed of the top 8 teams. This is true in a lot of regions around the state. Lincoln Co. is a top 8 team in the 12th region but they are not in the regional tournament this year.

[JohnLex7]

I do not buy the fact you include Lex Christian and Lafayette in that category (they are above average yes, but any of the 3 teams you listed could beat them on any given night), because they are very beatable. You would probably be surprised but Bryan Station, Madison Southern and Western Hills has some very talented players on there team. Madison Southern has some of the best hitters in the region playing for them, they just dont have quite the numbers to field a full team that can make them even more competitive, Western Hills has some of the best young position talent in the Region and Bryan Station apparently can beat most of the teams on any given day if the pitching matchup works out.

 

I have seen Bryan Station, Madison Southern and Western Hills play. WH only played one Lexington team, Lafayette, and lost 5-3 on a night when Lafayette sparingly played some of their seniors. (it was the night after senior night) However, I think that WH is the best of those 3 teams, in the game against Lafayette, they had the bases loaded in the 7th and Lafayette put their regular starters at their regular positions with 2 outs in the 7th to seal the deal. They played solid defense and were young and enthusiastic. Madison Southern played 3 games against Lexington teams, losing 4-3 to Bryan Station, 11-1 to Tates Creek and 11-1 to Lafayette. However, they played a couple of close games against Franklin County and the championship game against Madison Central was closer than their other games with them. Bryan Station played the 3 public schools in the 43d one time each, losing 11-1 to Dunbar, 15-3 to Lafayette and 7-4 to Tates Creek. They are the biggest enigma of those teams, because they also played Henry Clay (a VERY good team) closely but I still think Western Hills is the best of those 3 teams.

 

What I will agree with is your other assessment, the solution may be to split the Lexington schools into two regions, like the Louisville schools are.

[STRIKE3]

Good topic and start a new thread, discussing it. Let's keep this one, back on the game.

[SCbaseball08]

who pitched for franklin?