By speaking up and demanding it. Saving all this money on not bussing kids all over the county could be used to fix schools who right now during open enrollment are now where equal to other schools.

 

The way you address the needs is to make sure that every school has upper level courses and advanced programs, not just a few of them.

 

It can and will benefits schools, students, and make communities stronger.

 

And the magnet and options program is a sham. Very few students actually use it for its full worth.

 

I guess I think that if it were as easy as speaking up and demanding it, our schools now would have no inequities across the board.

 

As I understand it, kids who choose to go to a school not in their "home" area provide their own transportation. At least, I know a great many that ride the TARC every day for hours.

 

I question that the money would go back into schools, or that building needs would be addressed. I know that Manual, while being the top academic school in the county, certainly shows no indication facilities-wise, that they receive more money for their school.

 

I'm not sure how communities will become stronger, especially in those areas with underperforming schools.

Nope, Jefferson County provides transportation for you no matter what school you want to go to. If you live in Valley Station and want to go to Eastern you get transportation from JC.

 

I believe Shawnee may need some work. Manual is really nice inside. Step foot in there.

 

Communities will become stonger because everyone will go to the same school. Kids will know each other and in effect so will parents. Communities would also take pride in their school because it will be THEIR SCHOOL.

 

I guess I think that if it were as easy as speaking up and demanding it, our schools now would have no inequities across the board.

 

As I understand it, kids who choose to go to a school not in their "home" area provide their own transportation. At least, I know a great many that ride the TARC every day for hours.

 

I question that the money would go back into schools, or that building needs would be addressed. I know that Manual, while being the top academic school in the county, certainly shows no indication facilities-wise, that they receive more money for their school.

 

I'm not sure how communities will become stronger, especially in those areas with underperforming schools.

Nope, Jefferson County provides transportation for you no matter what school you want to go to. If you live in Valley Station and want to go to Eastern you get transportation from JC.

 

I believe Shawnee may need some work. Manual is really nice inside. Step foot in there.

 

Communities will become stonger because everyone will go to the same school. Kids will know each other and in effect so will parents. Communities would also take pride in their school because it will be THEIR SCHOOL.

 

I'm still not convinced that living in the same area creates a stronger school community. If that were so, than I doubt that schools like Manual, Male, Trinity and St. X would have such huge alumni bases and support.

 

I don't buy that going to the same school makes kids know each other better, nor parents. I'm sorry, but the reality is that I don't believe that any one will gain from being forced into a school. Kids and parents are more involved when they have choices.

for years there was no bussing or open enrollment and everything was fine. I agree about the choices deal but I also agree that parents who care will do what they know is right even if they had no choice in school. But, you would still have choice in school, just move. There is your choice. Bad neighborhoods generally have bad schools. If you don't like the school you probably won't like the neighborhood. Thousands of school districts operate through neighborhood schools and tell me they don't have a sense of community pride.

 

I'm still not convinced that living in the same area creates a stronger school community. If that were so, than I doubt that schools like Manual, Male, Trinity and St. X would have such huge alumni bases and support.

 

I don't buy that going to the same school makes kids know each other better, nor parents. I'm sorry, but the reality is that I don't believe that any one will gain from being forced into a school. Kids and parents are more involved when they have choices.

Rule #13 everyone.

I guess an even more pertinent question I would ask is:

 

If the school in my area is not adequate to my child's needs right now, am I willing to risk 4 years of his/her education and preparation for the future on a possibly futile task?

 

I attended Iroquois and have turned out okay. It was far from great 15 years ago. If you and your child value education, an education they will get...no matter the school!

Look for the court to rule against Jefferson County in this one.

Actually Trinity and St. Xavier gained mightily.

 

True. And Newton's Third Law of Motion applies here:For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. Just as St. Xavier and Trinity gained mightily with the inception of busing, they may suffer mightily with the demise of busing. What do BGPers think? Will the privates be negatively affected? Will some privates feel the effects more than others? If so, why?

obviously you didn't read the paper this morning or have been reading the paper. Read the Metro section this morning. But the discussion is if it happens. What schools may become powers or maybe will there be more parity?

 

also, the new superintendent stated he doesn't like the fact that schools here in Louisville are set up to succeed and others to fail. Meaning Manual, Male, Butler etc. He thinks all schools should be equal.

Link?

 

I read the article in question. The concern is for kids that don't take advantage of magnet programs and the advanced program and just go to their home schools. NO WHERE in that article does it say that JCPS will be eliminating open enrollment or the magnet programs.

 

thomam, we all know that your extremely hostile to the current JCPS assignment system. But trust me when I say that I am WAY on the inside on this, and that magnet schools aren't going away, and unless the county school system breaks up we will not be returning to neighborhood schools.

"If the court rules against the Board of Education, the district will have to consider other assignment plans, Todd said. That could mean returning to neighborhood schools or removing race from the factors considered in assigning students to a school."

 

Pat Todd is the director of student assignment

 

Here is the article link also http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070420/NEWS01/704200457

 

How do the kids say it? pwned?

First of all, rule 2. You know, like how the mods stay stick to the issues and not each other?

 

Second of all, didn't I say I read the article? I'll ask again, can you point out to me where it says that magnet schools and open enrollment would be eliminated? I could see scaled back, if we returned to resides districts, but I promise you that Manual would still be an all-district school, as would Male and probably Butler. Didn't RP already explain to you that point?

 

By the way, I know who Todd is. Do you? As in, REALLY know him, or just read about him and catch a sound bite on TV? 'Cause not to belabor the point, but I do.

 

And for the record, resides districts would be an alternative if the race based assignment language were removed. But it won't be what they do. Todd threw that out there to an NAACP sponsered meeting for a REASON. It's called rhetoric. What will happed is the second option.

 

Just trust me.

 

And could you PLEASE provide a link to your statement about the new superintendent? I'll just keep asking until you do, or admit that you don't have one.

What he said was not posted in a interview. You would have to been there live when he had that forum at Gheens Academy.

One ofthose 'you just had to be there' things. Gotcha. :thumb:

Uh, you two, Pat Todd is a she, not a he. :lol:

 

I predict that if the Supreme Court rules that Jefferson County's use of race in assigning students to optional programs is unconstitutional, the JCPS will make the smallest adjustment necessary to compy. I can't see them scrapping magnet and traditional schools because they are a success story and they provide excellent alternatives to private schools. They may decide to expanding the optional programs that have demand in excess of present capacity. After all, a student being denied admission to a space-limited optional program is what precipitated the lawsuit in the first place.

 

I haven't seen any quote from the incoming school commissioner that leads me to believe he wants to get rid of these successful programs.

I was about to argue with you before I was informed that I was thinking of the wrong person. :irked: