Congrats to Murray on the big win in double OT!….Apollo needed this game! For momentum for RPI purposes. With that offense they’ll definitely have a bunch of show worthy performances but not sure they’re a contender in 5A until that defense tightens up.. 58 points allowed is very worrying.

2 hours ago, Devils Fan said:

Congrats to Murray on the big win in double OT!….Apollo needed this game! For momentum for RPI purposes. With that offense they’ll definitely have a bunch of show worthy performances but not sure they’re a contender in 5A until that defense tightens up.. 58 points allowed is very worrying.

Hats off to Murray. They earned it. But I’m not sure how we jumped from “Apollo gave up 58 in a double OT shootout” to questioning whether they can contend in 5A after one game.

If we’re going to evaluate the whole team and make brash claims, let’s evaluate the whole team.

Apollo ran the football better last night than they did at any point last season. That’s a pretty significant development. The offensive line opened holes in the run game and gave Max Johnson plenty of time to throw. When Max had time, he made plays. Apollo finally showed the ability to hurt you on the ground AND through the air. That should probably be part of the conversation too.

Does the defense need to improve? Absolutely. Nobody wearing blue is celebrating giving up 58. Tackling, assignments and getting off the field all have to get better.

But declaring a team questionable as a 5A contender after Week 1 because of the final score of a DOUBLE OVERTIME game seems a little premature. Especially while conveniently ignoring everything Apollo showed offensively.

Murray deserves credit. Apollo’s defense needs work. Both things can be true.

But it’s August 22nd, not November.

Might want to give the Eagles more than four quarters and two overtimes before making predictions about being contenders in 5A.

5 hours ago, jester270 said:

Hats off to Murray. They earned it. But I’m not sure how we jumped from “Apollo gave up 58 in a double OT shootout” to questioning whether they can contend in 5A after one game.

If we’re going to evaluate the whole team and make brash claims, let’s evaluate the whole team.

Apollo ran the football better last night than they did at any point last season. That’s a pretty significant development. The offensive line opened holes in the run game and gave Max Johnson plenty of time to throw. When Max had time, he made plays. Apollo finally showed the ability to hurt you on the ground AND through the air. That should probably be part of the conversation too.

Does the defense need to improve? Absolutely. Nobody wearing blue is celebrating giving up 58. Tackling, assignments and getting off the field all have to get better.

But declaring a team questionable as a 5A contender after Week 1 because of the final score of a DOUBLE OVERTIME game seems a little premature. Especially while conveniently ignoring everything Apollo showed offensively.

Murray deserves credit. Apollo’s defense needs work. Both things can be true.

But it’s August 22nd, not November.

Might want to give the Eagles more than four quarters and two overtimes before making predictions about being contenders in 5A.

We at OHS have a HUGE problem right now. If our QB is out we have a problem vs. CAL.

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1 hour ago, TimeWillTell said:

We at OHS have a HUGE problem right now. If our QB is out we have a problem vs. CAL.

Ganaway will be missed no doubt. Biggs will do fine. O scores their only offensive TD with him in the game. Next man up. Biggs is better than a lot of starters from other teams.

The Defense should keep that game competitive.

As for Apollo I just expected more with some of the pre-season hype they had. I still think they are in for a good season by Apollo standards. I just thought this was the year they turned it up a notch…. Like @jester270 said it’s just Aug 22nd. They still have Heritage Hills, OC and OHS to prove themselves over the coming weeks.

10 minutes ago, Devils Fan said:

Ganaway will be missed no doubt. Biggs will do fine. O scores their only offensive TD with him in the game. Next man up. Biggs is better than a lot of starters from other teams.

The Defense should keep this game competitive.

How many rushing yards did Hampton have against CAL last year? This game could start the conversation of Walker>Hampton if OHS is competitive

2 minutes ago, jester270 said:

How many rushing yards did Hampton have against CAL last year? This game could start the conversation of Walker>Hampton if OHS is competitive

I think that started with X. He had more in that game than Hampton I believe. Might need to be fact checked though.

Apollo thought they had won in regulation…hit a pass on the sideline in the EZ….too many people to tell if it was legit, but the side judge was no where near the play and called him out of bounds from like 20 yards away. Murray was able to run the same play and keep getting good yardage. If Apollo can prioritize defense and make some personnel changes, they can make some noise. I don’t know their staff, who is the Def. coordinator? It is the first game so let’s see how they play against Santa Claus who throttled South Spencer. I hope they have a great year. Next week could be a huge statement.

24 minutes ago, Brown said:

Apollo thought they had won in regulation…hit a pass on the sideline in the EZ….too many people to tell if it was legit, but the side judge was no where near the play and called him out of bounds from like 20 yards away. Murray was able to run the same play and keep getting good yardage. If Apollo can prioritize defense and make some personnel changes, they can make some noise. I don’t know their staff, who is the Def. coordinator? It is the first game so let’s see how they play against Santa Claus who throttled South Spencer. I hope they have a great year. Next week could be a huge statement.

Come on now, we are questioning John Edge now? Get out of here with that. Have you followed football in the area in the past 2 decades? They graduated a whole defensive unit and now it’s a coaching problem? Week one is over. They will adjust and improve. Teams can have growing pains, but it’s all about how they overcome those issues. If anyone can figure adjustments out for the Eagles, it’s John Edge. They will figure their depth out and will continue to get better throughout the season. I have said it before and will say it again…. This Apollo team last night fought hard to stay in the game. They faced one of the best blocking units in the state. Heritage Hills will be another HUGE test, but I am confident they will bounce back. Apollo is battled tested early on to prepare for a tough district. Previous Apollo coaches would have loaded their schedule with less competition. Edge plays chess, not checkers. If this team stays healthy and figures out their defensive box, then they will be a sleeper when games matter the most.

Asking who the DC is. do not follow Apollo at all so I couldn’t name one assistant. But I’m begging for more playmakers on that side of the ball whoever it is.

My response should have answered your question, Homer

6 minutes ago, Brown said:

Asking who the DC is. do not follow Apollo at all so I couldn’t name one assistant. But I’m begging for more playmakers on that side of the ball whoever it is..