11 minutes ago, futurecoach said:

I was hoping for Murphy or Newton. Mims though had the potential to end up being the best tackle from this draft. Just kind of frustrating though how the Bengals somehow find a way to take first round picks that most likely won’t even start or play their rookie year. They are in a Super Bowl window right now and the last two years with their first round picks they have taken guys that was more for the future rather than immediate help now. 

I feel like as long as Joe Burrow is healthy the Bengals are in a Super Bowl window so I will never fault OL reinforcements. 

23 minutes ago, theguru said:

I feel like as long as Joe Burrow is healthy the Bengals are in a Super Bowl window so I will never fault OL reinforcements. 

Agreed. Just seems like the Bengals don’t get first year impact guys in the first round like other teams do. In the last 13 drafts, 8 of the bengals first round picks have not started and not played much as rookies. The Bengals in the last three years in their Super Bowl window have now drafted 3 guys in the first round in Dax Hill, Murphy, and now Mims that were all guys that were not going to start and not even projected to play much their rookie years. 
 

So it’s not as much about not liking Mims as it is just the Bengals approach with first round picks through the years. Mims definitely has the potential to be a stud tackle and as I said possibly end up being the best tackle in this draft class. 

2 hours ago, 16thBBall Fan said:

What does that mean for Mayer?

Probably more 12 personnel with Mayer on the line and Brock split out. 

3 minutes ago, futurecoach said:

Agreed. Just seems like the Bengals don’t get first year impact guys in the first round like other teams do. In the last 13 drafts, 8 of the bengals first round picks have not started and not played much as rookies. The Bengals in the last three years in their Super Bowl window have now drafted 3 guys in the first round in Dax Hill, Murphy, and now Mims that were all guys that were not going to start and not even projected to play much their rookie years. 
 

So it’s not as much about not liking Mims as it is just the Bengals approach with first round picks through the years. Mims definitely has the potential to be a stud tackle and as I said possibly end up being the best tackle in this draft class. 

I hear what you are saying but if the Bengals consistently draft that way it should pay off in the long run. 

And I will have a side of luck with that order please. 

3 minutes ago, futurecoach said:

Probably more 12 personnel with Mayer on the line and Brock split out. 

That is what I was thinking.  And I assume that Gardner Minshew thrives in 2 TE sets. 

48 minutes ago, futurecoach said:

I was hoping for Murphy or Newton. Mims though had the potential to end up being the best tackle from this draft. Just kind of frustrating though how the Bengals somehow find a way to take first round picks that most likely won’t even start or play their rookie year. They are in a Super Bowl window right now and the last two years with their first round picks they have taken guys that was more for the future rather than immediate help now. 

What player could they have taken at 18 that would be starting this coming season?

With Trent Brown's injury history, odds are Mims will play some.

I keep thinking about Cedric Ogbuehi.

8 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

What player could they have taken at 18 that would be starting this coming season?

With Trent Brown's injury history, odds are Mims will play some.

With how the draft played out. Could have taken the top CB in the draft in Quinyon Mitchell. The top interior lineman in the draft in Graham Barton who probably would have started over Volson this year, and then would have been able to take over for Karras when I think his deal runs out after this season. WR Brian Thomas JR. OL- Troy Fautanu another one who probably would have started over Volson this year, and could move to tackle in a year if they wanted. So there were players available that could have helped and started right away. More so than a guy who only plays tackle, with only 8 games experience and will only most likely play if there is an injury to one of the Browns. 

As I said I truly think Mims may end up being the best tackle in the draft. So in the long run it probably will end up being a great pick. It is just more on how they keep going with guys in the first round hoping they help a lot in the future more so than this year. Which is what they have now done three years in a row with Dax Hill, Murphy and now him. 

With how it played out, I would have loved to have seen them trade back. Which obviously it takes another team to have to do that, so there might have not been anyone to trade back with. A guy I would have also loved is DT-Newton. A guy that would have been a big part of the D line rotation and possibly start. I honestly now hope they try to trade up in the second round to get him. 

44 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

I keep thinking about Cedric Ogbuehi.

I do think Mims has a much higher upside than him though. Plus Mims Ras Score was very high, which has been a good predictor lately for lineman and how successful they are. 

6 hours ago, futurecoach said:

With how the draft played out. Could have taken the top CB in the draft in Quinyon Mitchell. The top interior lineman in the draft in Graham Barton who probably would have started over Volson this year, and then would have been able to take over for Karras when I think his deal runs out after this season. WR Brian Thomas JR. OL- Troy Fautanu another one who probably would have started over Volson this year, and could move to tackle in a year if they wanted. So there were players available that could have helped and started right away. More so than a guy who only plays tackle, with only 8 games experience and will only most likely play if there is an injury to one of the Browns. 

As I said I truly think Mims may end up being the best tackle in the draft. So in the long run it probably will end up being a great pick. It is just more on how they keep going with guys in the first round hoping they help a lot in the future more so than this year. Which is what they have now done three years in a row with Dax Hill, Murphy and now him. 

With how it played out, I would have loved to have seen them trade back. Which obviously it takes another team to have to do that, so there might have not been anyone to trade back with. A guy I would have also loved is DT-Newton. A guy that would have been a big part of the D line rotation and possibly start. I honestly now hope they try to trade up in the second round to get him. 

The only player you listed that I think could start next year is the WR. Personally, I have higher hopes for Volson than Karras.

Lance McAlister had a long take on Facebook.

My random thoughts on Amarius Mims and the Cincinnati Bengals:

I get the pick. I get the frustration and concern with the pick.
Fans screamed: Protect the investment. They made a pick designed to do just that.
Fans complain the Bengals are never bold in their actions. Taking a swing at a guy with off the chart measurables, but limited college snaps is bold. 
It’s a pick of projection and with great development required. 
All draft picks are picks of projection and development. This happens to be a pick from an organization lacking a solid resume of OL development.
The snaps that Mims put on tape had evaluators pegging him as a clear 1st rounder, in most cases a Top 20 or better pick. It’s not like the Bengals pulled him from left field. 
If he’d made 24 starts, instead of 8, he might have been a Top 5 pick. But he didn’t. And he wasn’t. 
The Bengals are keeping Tee around one more year in a SB window….for the here and now, yet they drafted an OL that needs to be developed for the future. 
If the Bengals are going to be as good as everyone thinks, No. 18 is going to be the highest they pick in a while. And the pick came in a year with a strong OL class.
Just because he’s only made 8 starts doesn’t mean he can’t do it.  But it does mean he hasn’t done much.
Pointing to your draft pick 44 years ago that lacked experience but went on to be the greatest OL all-time seems like a silly talking point to prop up the pick of Mims. There is only one Anthony Munoz.
Only 21, his slate is relatively clean of learned bad habits. Frank Pollack can now mold/shape. Who has Frank Pollack molded and shaped? 
Is he Cedric Ogbuehi, Jake Fisher, Billy Price, Jackson Carman, Jonah Williams? I have no idea. But each question I have to ask about him makes me less comfortable. 
He’s an inexperienced player that basically gets a redshirt season of watching/learning/development. He's likely to only plays as a rookie if free agent right tackle Trent Brown gets hurt/doesn’t play well or Mims outplays him….Only one of those three scenarios is a positive. 
He’s a 340 pound guy that needed ankle surgery last season…..Big frames need a strong foundation.
He’s a guy that suffered a hamstring injury 20 yards through the 40 yard dash at NFL Combine.
He played in the best conference country…made starts in the Peach Bowl against Ohio State and the National Championship against TCU. But he was a reserve offensive lineman in 14 of 15 games two years ago.
Does Mims have 'it' in him? His measurables sure are exciting. But those measurables were measured in small doses.  
Will Troy Fautanu be better for the Steelers? Perhaps. I’m curious if he’s actually a guard. 
Can the Bengals get the best out of him? Sure hope so. Hope isn’t the ideal strategy when you have Joe Burrow. 
If the Steelers had selected Mims, I’m guessing some would have criticized the Bengals for not taking him. 
Doesn't it always seem like we have picks to compare between the Bengals and Steelers?
I'd guess most people, including myself, base thoughts on draft picks on what we've read and heard. What the heck do I know about OL play?
My default position is almost always positive/optimistic. I'm there with this pick. I won't criticize fans for criticism. The Bengals simply have not offered enough evidence of the ability to identify/develop OL talent to earn the benefit of the doubt. 
When that impacts QB1 I get it.

39 minutes ago, theguru said:

These guys who weigh three hundred and forty pounds and look like they're in great shape are amazing.