^ exactly....If these kids have lived for 20 years without $, what is one more

To add to what I posted above...

 

 

You're saying the kid never had any money, and should be expected to jump at that money.

 

They're in college for FREE! That's right. Free education, free housing, and free academic advising.

 

They're in the minority among their peers who aren't athletically gifted.

 

One more year...and yeah, that year would be free too...won't hurt them one bit.

To add to what I posted above...

 

 

You're saying the kid never had any money, and should be expected to jump at that money.

 

They're in college for FREE! That's right. Free education, free housing, and free academic advising.

 

They're in the minority among their peers who aren't athletically gifted.

 

One more year...and yeah, that year would be free too...won't hurt them one bit.

 

 

"Hey, Mom. I've got the chance to leave college one year early and sign a contract that will immediately pay me $7M . Immediate as in as soon as I sign. However, despite the fact that you're unable to always pay the rent and you work 3 jobs from 6 to midnight and despite the fact you live in a really bad and dangerous neighborhood and despite the fact that you can't afford a car and have to take a bus, I'm thinking of passing it up. What's that you say, Mom? I know I could immediately take care of you and my siblings and put them in a better school system and get them out of harm's way but think of my degree, Mom. Don't be selfish. Sure, I could take that a miniscule portion of that money and finish my degree AND take care of you and the family at the same time. However, I really like my PSYCH professor. And don't forget - its FREE. What's that, Mom? "Free" doesn't put food on your table and doesn't pay for your arthritis medicine? Suck it up, old lady!"

 

 

RM - which of the above is utopia and which of the above is real world?

^ exactly....If these kids have lived for 20 years without $, what is one more

 

RIIIIGHT.

 

 

"Walk a mile in their shoes" comes to mind when I read the above.

"Hey, Mom. I've got the chance to leave college one year early and sign a contract that will immediately pay me $7M . Immediate as in as soon as I sign. However, despite the fact that you're unable to always pay the rent and you work 3 jobs from 6 to midnight and despite the fact you live in a really bad and dangerous neighborhood and despite the fact that you can't afford a car and have to take a bus, I'm thinking of passing it up. What's that you say, Mom? I know I could immediately take care of you and my siblings and put them in a better school system and get them out of harm's way but think of my degree, Mom. Don't be selfish. Sure, I could take that a miniscule portion of that money and finish my degree AND take care of you and the family at the same time. However, I really like my PSYCH professor. And don't forget - its FREE. What's that, Mom? "Free" doesn't put food on your table and doesn't pay for your arthritis medicine? Suck it up, old lady!"

 

 

RM - which of the above is utopia and which of the above is real world?

 

 

No need to be so sarcastic, chs. You paint a greedy picture. There are many, many, underprivileged families out there who are not in this world only looking for the quick money. You're trying to paint every athlete who goes as underprivileged. That's simply not true. You are exaggerating to make your point. The scenarios are not utopia versus real world. It all comes down to values and priorities.

 

To prove your position, you'd need to provide data that proved that the majority of athletes who turn pro early are from underprivileged families. That their lives have in no way changed from the time they entered college, to the time they go pro. You'd have to show then, that every one of those athletes took the money and helped their families.

 

Of course, we can all perpetuate the myth that it's all about the money. We can all sit here and bemoan the fact that our society is so materialistic, or we can celebrate those who make decisions that AREN'T motivated by money.

 

But then, of course, there are some who'll turn every reason to stay into a purely financial one.

 

Personally, I feel that Brian's decision to stay may have involved the money to some degree, but I know that other factors were most likely a greater influence. You can paint it anyway you like. But he's not from a rich family. He's not underprivileged, but he's not rich either. I guess you could say he's about average.

With all due respect Rockmom and Rp you two are way to close to the rocks program to even be able to look at this situation with an unbiased opinion. It clearly shows when you defend BB and anyone reading these post can see it. You are clearly putting other kids down when you are trying to put BB up on a pedestal. Do you really think BB would have stayed at Louisville if he was from a poor family who has never had anything? Don't kid yourself. BB is no better than anybody else. He just has a better situation than most.

^ That's bringing him down, Brian is a tremendous kid and if you don't know him, you invalidate your post by having it written.

No need to be so sarcastic, chs. You paint a greedy picture. There are many, many, underprivileged families out there who are not in this world only looking for the quick money. You're trying to paint every athlete who goes as underprivileged. That's simply not true. You are exaggerating to make your point. The scenarios are not utopia versus real world. It all comes down to values and priorities.

 

To prove your position, you'd need to provide data that proved that the majority of athletes who turn pro early are from underprivileged families. That their lives have in no way changed from the time they entered college, to the time they go pro. You'd have to show then, that every one of those athletes took the money and helped their families.

 

Of course, we can all perpetuate the myth that it's all about the money. We can all sit here and bemoan the fact that our society is so materialistic, or we can celebrate those who make decisions that AREN'T motivated by money.

 

But then, of course, there are some who'll turn every reason to stay into a purely financial one.

 

Personally, I feel that Brian's decision to stay may have involved the money to some degree, but I know that other factors were most likely a greater influence. You can paint it anyway you like. But he's not from a rich family. He's not underprivileged, but he's not rich either. I guess you could say he's about average.

 

 

We can also act like the majority of D1 scholarship athletes #1 priority is education when history has shown that not to be true. The majority of top athletes at top programs (yes, I'm including UL) have their #1 goal of playing professional sports and its NOT getting a sociology degree. To think otherwise would require one to completely ignore graduation rates and trends in big-time athletes. Go to any major university and take a survey of the big-time athletes and you'll have your data to prove my point.

 

Most of the kids would love to be financially "average" like BB and his family.

 

Lastly, you say "into a purely financial one." Isn't that what college is about?

With all due respect Rockmom and Rp you two are way to close to the rocks program to even be able to look at this situation with an unbiased opinion. It clearly shows when you defend BB and anyone reading these post can see it. You are clearly putting other kids down when you are trying to put BB up on a pedestal. Do you really think BB would have stayed at Louisville if he was from a poor family who has never had anything? Don't kid yourself. BB is no better than anybody else. He just has a better situation than most.

 

I am not putting other kids down, and the fact that you feel that way is disappointing. I don't put kids down. Period.

 

I've stated my position. I've stated my position on education first.

 

I'm not trying to put anyone on a pedestal, but heck yeah! I DO admire people who put factors other than immediate wealth first! Personally, that's an important trait for a person to possess.

 

If you read anything other than the above into any of my posts, then you aren't reading to understand what I'm saying. You're reading with an already skewed slant, making the assumption that I am supporting Brian only because he's a Trinity Grad.

 

Wrong. But, think what you want. It's not like anything I've ever said was heard on merit anyway. Most here assume because I support Trinity, I must not know what the real world is like.

 

If only you knew.

Some of you here are just kidding yourselves. You never know what could happen in another year of playing....if you NEED the money and you have amounts of that kind being thrown in your face, you're going to take it and if necessary, go back later and finish your 1 year of school.

 

That's not the case for everybody but don't be foolish and think you can generalize like every athelete needs to wait for their entire career to expire.

Some of you here are just kidding yourselves. You never know what could happen in another year of playing....if you NEED the money and you have amounts of that kind being thrown in your face, you're going to take it and if necessary, go back later and finish your 1 year of school.

 

That's not the case for everybody but don't be foolish and think you can generalize like every athelete needs to wait for their entire career to expire.

Well said. :thumb: :thumb:

I think some are a little too sensitive. Brian Brohm is a very good quarterback. He'll be in the NFL someday, without a doubt; however, I think he was a little disappointed in his draft status, and rightfully so. With another year he can work his way up the draft board, into a top 10 or probable top 5 pick. This year, he was looking at a mid-to-late 1st round selection. The difference in money there is remarkable.

 

Some on here were predicting him to be taken very, very early in the draft. The true experts told him otherwise, so he came back to improve his situation. He's fortunate he's able to do so, both physically & financially. Some players are not capable of doing that.

 

It's not too complicated if you step away from the situation and at least TRY to evaluate it somewhat objectively.

I think some are a little too sensitive. Brian Brohm is a very good quarterback. He'll be in the NFL someday, without a doubt; however, I think he was a little disappointed in his draft status, and rightfully so. With another year he can work his way up the draft board, into a top 10 or probable top 5 pick. This year, he was looking at a mid-to-late 1st round selection. The difference in money there is remarkable.

 

Some on here were predicting him to be taken very, very early in the draft. The true experts told him otherwise, so he came back to improve his situation. He's fortunate he's able to do so, both physically & financially. Some players are not capable of doing that.

 

It's not too complicated if you step away from the situation and at least TRY to evaluate it somewhat objectively.

 

And some on here are trivializing the qualities and traits he possesses to have made such a decision.

^ That's bringing him down, Brian is a tremendous kid and if you don't know him, you invalidate your post by having it written.

 

 

And you would be completely wrong. I did not put him down by saying he wasn't better than anyone else. If you like to act like he is better than other people, so be it but I think that is wrong.

P.S. Your complete blindness to this situation really invalidates anything you post regarding the subject.

It's not like anything I've ever said was heard on merit anyway.

 

Let me know when the pity party stops.