With Trimble County cancelling their 2018 football season due to low turnout and declining numbers in the school system, could co-op programs work in Kentucky like they do in other states like Illinois. For example, UHA does not offer football, but can be involved in a co-op program with Christian County or Hopkinsville to allow UHA students the chance to play football without changing schools.

I didn't know something like this existed. If so, I think it's fair and would benefit someone wanting to play a sport that their school didn't offer.

I didn't know something like this existed. If so, I think it's fair and would benefit someone wanting to play a sport that their school didn't offer.

 

I agree

 

It would potentially also be useful for some programs who have held on to a football program and endured years of suffering and trying to break even financially.

 

If a kid could still attend Jenkins but could play football for Letcher Central it not only gives him the best chance to succeed on the gridiron, but it also means Jenkins could us money they have to spend on football to enrich their other athletic programs.

So where would these schools filter to?

I would think they would have to defer to the nearest Public County School if applicable, if a Public County school is not nearby then an independent school or magnet school

 

Augusta- Bracken County

Barbourville- Knox Central

Beth Haven- Valley

Brown- Central

Buckhorn- Perry Central

Burgin- Mercer County

Calvary Christian- Holmes

Carlisle County- Ballard Memorial

Christian Fellowship- Marshall County

Community Christian- McCracken County

Cordia- Knott Central

Covington Latin- Holmes

Cumberland County- Either Monroe or Clinton County

Danville Christian- Boyle County

Dawson Springs- Caldwell County

Elliott County- West Carter

Eminence- Henry County

Evangel Christian- Southern High School

Frankfort Christian- Franklin County

Frederick Fraize- Breckinridge County

Heritage Academy- Boone County

Hickman County- Fulton City

Jackson City- Breathitt County

June Buchanan- Knott Central

Lee County- Breathitt County

Livingston Central- Crittenden County or Marshall County

Lyon County- Caldwell County or Marshall County

Menifee County- Powell County

Model- Madison Central

OBI- Clay County

Owsley County- Jackson County or Breathitt County

Piarist- Sheldon Clark

Portland Christian- Ballard

Red Bird- Leslie County

Riverside Christian- Breathitt Co

Robertson County- Mason Co

Rose Hill- Boyd Co

Sayre- Frederick Douglass

Silver Grove- Campbell County

Whitesville Trinity- Daviess County

UHA- Christian Co

Villa Madonna- Simon Kenton

Walden- Waggener

Whitefield Acad- Moore

Williamsburg- Grant County

Wolfe County- Breathitt County

This could not only be applied to sports, but to other activities as well such as marching band, debate team, academic team, etc.

So where would these schools filter to?

I would think they would have to defer to the nearest Public County School if applicable, if a Public County school is not nearby then an independent school or magnet school

 

Augusta- Bracken County

Barbourville- Knox Central

Beth Haven- Valley

Brown- Central

Buckhorn- Perry Central

Burgin- Mercer County

Calvary Christian- Holmes

Carlisle County- Ballard Memorial

Christian Fellowship- Marshall County

Community Christian- McCracken County

Cordia- Knott Central

Covington Latin- Holmes

Cumberland County- Either Monroe or Clinton County

Danville Christian- Boyle County

Dawson Springs- Caldwell County

Elliott County- West Carter

Eminence- Henry County

Evangel Christian- Southern High School

Frankfort Christian- Franklin County

Frederick Fraize- Breckinridge County

Heritage Academy- Boone County

Hickman County- Fulton City

Jackson City- Breathitt County

June Buchanan- Knott Central

Lee County- Breathitt County

Livingston Central- Crittenden County or Marshall County

Lyon County- Caldwell County or Marshall County

Menifee County- Powell County

Model- Madison Central

OBI- Clay County

Owsley County- Jackson County or Breathitt County

Piarist- Sheldon Clark

Portland Christian- Ballard

Red Bird- Leslie County

Riverside Christian- Breathitt Co

Robertson County- Mason Co

Rose Hill- Boyd Co

Sayre- Frederick Douglass

Silver Grove- Campbell County

Whitesville Trinity- Daviess County

UHA- Christian Co

Villa Madonna- Simon Kenton

Walden- Waggener

Whitefield Acad- Moore

Williamsburg- Grant County

Wolfe County- Breathitt County

 

For what it’s worth, I would think Villa would either go to Dixie or Beechwood (not SK) and Calvary would go to Scott (which is maybe a mile away) instead of Holmes.

 

As far as the idea, there’s lots of questions. I’m not opposed to the idea, but how would you classify teams in this situation as this would kind of skew numbers? Also, do those who attend private schools without teams get a choice to play for a co-op team in states that allow this, especially if they reside in a Public district that does have football? How are the academic and other standards managed?

I was wondering a similar thing. A few years ago, well I say a few, but over a decade ago, there were some players from Rose Hill Christian, that played middle school football at Fairview. I was told it was allowed due to RH not having a football program. Is this still the case? Can a kid play a sport at another school if the aport is not played at the school they are enrolled in?

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As far as the idea, there’s lots of questions. I’m not opposed to the idea, but how would you classify teams in this situation as this would kind of skew numbers? Also, do those who attend private schools without teams get a choice to play for a co-op team in states that allow this, especially if they reside in a Public district that does have football? How are the academic and other standards managed?

My big question as well

 

Obviously you cant really weigh the number of 9-12 grade boys the same as what attends the school. Maybe take that number and apply a multiplier to it.

 

For example if Rose Hill Christian hypothetically has 65 boys in grades 9-12, if a school agrees to be a co-op program they take the wait of 50% of that. So the impact of Boyd County's number then is increased by 32.5 boys when figuring up their class.

 

Assuming that 50% of the boys at Rose Hill would play football is certainly a vastly over exaggerated percentage, but I do think it would be fair to curtail other schools who would potentially benefit.

 

I don't know honestly where to begin... neat topic to think about though.

I think this a great idea!

As a side idea, could it be beneficial for smaller programs to petition to do consolidated co-op?

 

For example, if Fulton County, Fulton City, Hickman County, and Carlisle County wanted to create a consolidated co-op team to save money and petition to play in their proper designated class based off their average combined 4-year enrollment, could that be possible?

 

I I have heard of a team in Indiana called "Tri-County High School". I am not sure if it truly is three Counties in one though.

 

Schedule - Tri-County Cavaliers 217 Football (Wolcott, IN)

 

Obviously logistics for practice would be difficult

Other than Transportation issues I like the idea.

Villa -Cov Cath.

For anyone interested in how co-op goes in Illinois (it may exist in other places but this is the most familiar to me):

 

2.030 COOPERATIVE TEAM SPONSORSHIP

 

The Board of Directors shall have the authority to approve the formation of cooperative athletic teams or activity programs by two or more member schools under the following conditions:

 

(a) The schools are located in the same geographical area;

 

(b) All schools participating in the cooperative are Class A (in a 2-class system) or Class 1A or 2A (in a 3 or 4-class system) schools according to the IHSA Classification System; or, in the event one or more of the cooperating schools is a Class 3A or 4A public school, the cooperative team is for a sport other than Boys Football or Boys or Girls Basketball; In the event one or more of the schools involved in the cooperative is a public non-boundary school, that school’s actual enrollment, not multiplied enrollment is used to determine the eligibility of the cooperative team request.

 

© Only private schools with non multiplied enrollments of 200 or less are eligible to form cooperative teams.

 

(d) The combined enrollments of all schools involved in the cooperative team, calculated according to the IHSA Classification System, is utilized to determine the classification for the cooperative team;

 

(e) The cooperative sponsorship agreement is established for a period of two consecutive school years;

 

(f) The governing boards of all schools participating in the cooperative team agreement jointly make the application to the IHSA Board of Directors for approval of the cooperative team agreement;

 

(g) The joint application includes:

 

(1) Written approval from the conference(s) of which the cooperating schools are members, and/or in which the cooperative team will participate, or, in the event the cooperative team will not be affiliated with a conference, written approval from a minimum of seven schools included in the cooperative team’s schedule of competition;

 

(2) A statement signed by the principals of all cooperating schools designating the name under which the cooperative team will compete;

 

(3) A report of the number of students from each of the cooperative schools expected to participate on the cooperative team

 

(4) A report of the number of students, if any, from each of the cooperating schools who have been participating in the sport involved, in programs offered on a non-cooperative basis by their own schools;

 

(5) A statement expressing the reasons for the formation of a cooperative team;

 

(6) Written assurance that the cooperative team will not limit participation opportunities for students in any of the cooperating schools.

 

When a cooperative team completes two years of approved operation and the boards of education involved wish to renew the agreement for another two-year period, the involved school(s) shall submit to the IHSA, by the established date, notification that they wish to continue the cooperative with no changes and written approval from the conference.

Things that stood out:

 

2.030 COOPERATIVE TEAM SPONSORSHIP

 

The Board of Directors shall have the authority to approve the formation of cooperative athletic teams or activity programs by two or more member schools under the following conditions:

 

(a) The schools are located in the same geographical area; obvious

 

(b) All schools participating in the cooperative are Class A (in a 2-class system) or Class 1A or 2A (in a 3 or 4-class system) schools according to the IHSA Classification System; or, in the event one or more of the cooperating schools is a Class 3A or 4A public school, the cooperative team is for a sport other than Boys Football or Boys or Girls Basketball; In the event one or more of the schools involved in the cooperative is a public non-boundary school, that school’s actual enrollment, not multiplied enrollment is used to determine the eligibility of the cooperative team request. does this mean only two (or more) small schools could partner up? Can a Jenkins join at Letcher County Central?

 

© Only private schools with non multiplied enrollments of 200 or less are eligible to form cooperative teams. would a private school be allowed to partner with a public school?

 

(d) The combined enrollments of all schools involved in the cooperative team, calculated according to the IHSA Classification System, is utilized to determine the classification for the cooperative team; combining teams would have to be done before classification (or at least mid-term)

 

(e) The cooperative sponsorship agreement is established for a period of two consecutive school years; as mentioned above

 

(f) The governing boards of all schools participating in the cooperative team agreement jointly make the application to the IHSA Board of Directors for approval of the cooperative team agreement;

 

(g) The joint application includes:

 

(1) Written approval from the conference(s) of which the cooperating schools are members, and/or in which the cooperative team will participate, or, in the event the cooperative team will not be affiliated with a conference, written approval from a minimum of seven schools included in the cooperative team’s schedule of competition; would district opponents have a say in this?

 

(2) A statement signed by the principals of all cooperating schools designating the name under which the cooperative team will compete;

 

(3) A report of the number of students from each of the cooperative schools expected to participate on the cooperative team

 

(4) A report of the number of students, if any, from each of the cooperating schools who have been participating in the sport involved, in programs offered on a non-cooperative basis by their own schools;

 

(5) A statement expressing the reasons for the formation of a cooperative team;

 

(6) Written assurance that the cooperative team will not limit participation opportunities for students in any of the cooperating schools.

 

When a cooperative team completes two years of approved operation and the boards of education involved wish to renew the agreement for another two-year period, the involved school(s) shall submit to the IHSA, by the established date, notification that they wish to continue the cooperative with no changes and written approval from the conference.