How can someone sit behind a computer screen and call Meyer a scumbag for this when his tenure at OSU has proved the exact opposite. He was forthcoming with actions when the incidents were brought to his attention in 2009 and as soon as he found out about the criminal trespassing charge from December of 2017, he fired Smith. What motive would he have for not firing him in 2015 if he knew? And don't you dare say its because he cares more about winning football games, because anyone with a brain knows Zach Smith couldn't teach Jerry Rice how to run a route tree.

Because if you listen to the interview that's not what she said. She thinks Urban knew but she has no proof that he knew.

 

She clearly states she told everyone. Which means the University knew, the University did nothing.

Saw this mentioned somewhere else, but what if Shelley served as Urban's executive gatekeeper where it was literally her job to protect her husband and keep him on a need to know basis to protect his innocence in a situation like this.

She clearly states she told everyone. Which means the University knew, the University did nothing.

She clearly didn't because when pressed with the question of do you have direct proof that Urban knew, she said no.

Saw this mentioned somewhere else, but what if Shelley served as Urban's executive gatekeeper where it was literally her job to protect her husband and keep him on a need to know basis to protect his innocence in a situation like this.

 

Ah, a conspiracy theory bahahahhahahahahahahahaha

Ah, a conspiracy theory bahahahhahahahahahahahaha

I don't believe that, just quoting what I read.

How can someone sit behind a computer screen and call Meyer a scumbag for this when his tenure at OSU has proved the exact opposite. He was forthcoming with actions when the incidents were brought to his attention in 2009 and as soon as he found out about the criminal trespassing charge from December of 2017, he fired Smith. What motive would he have for not firing him in 2015 if he knew? And don't you dare say its because he cares more about winning football games, because anyone with a brain knows Zach Smith couldn't teach Jerry Rice how to run a route tree.

 

If you can’t see the correlation by keeping these incidents under rap doesn’t affect public perception of the program, thus affecting recruiting and subsequently his job, then I don’t know what to tell you. I don’t think anyone is saying this is about how great the guy coached, it’s about the company Meyer keeps and protects.

She clearly didn't because when pressed with the question of do you have direct proof that Urban knew, she said no.

 

Direct proof would be messages/emails/letters to UM himself. If she does t have that, she shouldn’t say she did. Phone calls to UM that weren’t recorded or messages to his wife fall under indirect proof.

Just to get ahead of this before it drops, but James O'Keefe aka the guy who released the damning videos of the Clinton campaign during the last election is releasing a video on Meyer later. This guy has proven time and time again that he just throws stuff against the wall and hopes 25% of it sticks. Definition of Fake News. He has released the opening 15 seconds of the video and its about Meyer throwing Gatorade bottles at a player while at UF

While not a sexual assault situation, does the "me too" movement put additional pressure on OSU?

Direct proof would be messages/emails/letters to UM himself. If she does t have that, she shouldn’t say she did. Phone calls to UM that weren’t recorded or messages to his wife fall under indirect proof.

Without direct proof how do we damn Meyer?

She clearly didn't because when pressed with the question of do you have direct proof that Urban knew, she said no.

 

So shes lying about the ordeal?

If you can’t see the correlation by keeping these incidents under rap doesn’t affect public perception of the program, thus affecting recruiting and subsequently his job, then I don’t know what to tell you. I don’t think anyone is saying this is about how great the guy coached, it’s about the company Meyer keeps and protects.

I'm speaking 100% about Meyer off the field.

So shes lying about the ordeal?

I don't think she is lying at all. I'm telling you what she said.

While not a sexual assault situation, does the "me too" movement put additional pressure on OSU?

2018 in general puts additional pressure on OSU.