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KHSAA stats question

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Why do they not track assists?

Probably because they are so subjective. Points are points universally. Atts are atts universally. FTs are FTs universally. Rebounds are rebounds universlly. Assists from one team to the next may not remotely resemble each other. When the Big O had his triple double an assist had to lead immediately to a lay-up with no more than one dribble (my memory). Assists today may be nothing more than a pass from Westbrook to Anthony who launches an uncontested 30 footer. Assists today are not cut and dried by a non-subjective definition and in the NBA example much easier then years ago.

I thought it was because no one "passed" them the information. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

We played a game last year and our stat guy had a player on the other team with 7 ast and 8 Reb. They put an article in the paper the next day that he had a triple double 12 ast and 14 Reb.

 

Some teams want their kids to stand out.

 

IMO, an assist is when a pass is made and the shot is taken without a dribble or hesitation, or a fast break can have a dribble.

Edited by True blue (and gold)
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We played a game last year and our stat guy had a player on the other team with 7 ast and 8 Reb. They put an article in the paper the next day that he had a triple double 12 ast and 14 Reb.

 

Some teams want their kids to stand out.

 

IMO, an assist is when a pass is made and the shot is taken without a dribble or hesitation, or a fast break can have a dribble.

 

Back door cuts? Pick & Roll pocket passes? Kids are making plays. Their stats should reflect that.

Edited by True blue (and gold)

Back door cuts? Pick & Roll pocket passes? Kids are making plays. Their stats should reflect that.

 

Pick and rolls and back door cut are both a pass that leads to a shot without hesitation, just catch and shoot. I would count them. If you pass it to a player and he takes 2 dibbles and pulls up for a 12-15 footer, then no assist.

they are the hardest stat to track accurately.

We played a game last year and our stat guy had a player on the other team with 7 ast and 8 Reb. They put an article in the paper the next day that he had a triple double 12 ast and 14 Reb.

 

Some teams want their kids to stand out.

 

IMO, an assist is when a pass is made and the shot is taken without a dribble or hesitation, or a fast break can have a dribble.

 

Can't argue with you, but bet 75% of HS teams are a zillion times more lenient than that.

Edited by True blue (and gold)

How about out of bounds, baseline throw in? Double picks opens player for pass and easy uncontested bucket. Bet half teams call it an assist, the other half say no way....it was a designed OOB play and the picks created the bucket, not the idiot proof pass. Just pointing this example of how subjective the stat can be.

Our school uses Krossover for stats. They just post the game film and it is reviewed with stats within one day. It is awesome.

Can't argue with you, but bet 75% of HS teams are a zillion times more lenient than that.

 

A lot of schools are now using programs such as Krossover (mentioned below) or similar such as Hudl. Kind of takes out the bias in that case.

 

Our school uses Krossover for stats. They just post the game film and it is reviewed with stats within one day. It is awesome.
A lot of schools are now using programs such as Krossover (mentioned below) or similar such as Hudl. Kind of takes out the bias in that case.

Probably these great film aids only add consistency when the "taggers" are all using the same definition of assist.

A lot of schools are now using programs such as Krossover (mentioned below) or similar such as Hudl. Kind of takes out the bias in that case.

 

Yes, zero bias.

Can't argue with you, but bet 75% of HS teams are a zillion times more lenient than that.

Your dislike leaves me confused. My point was simply pointing out the subjectivity and resulting lack of consistency.

Probably because they are so subjective. Points are points universally. Atts are atts universally. FTs are FTs universally. Rebounds are rebounds universlly. Assists from one team to the next may not remotely resemble each other. When the Big O had his triple double an assist had to lead immediately to a lay-up with no more than one dribble (my memory). Assists today may be nothing more than a pass from Westbrook to Anthony who launches an uncontested 30 footer. Assists today are not cut and dried by a non-subjective definition and in the NBA example much easier then years ago.

If they had charted assists when the Big O played like they do in today’s game he would have set assist records that would have never been touched.

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