September 29, 200620 yr Proposal 8, in enacted, would be a significant step toward clearing up the "foggy" areas of due process, compliance, investigative procedures, and timely reporting of findings. It is needed. However, since it is proposed by Rob Mullen of Trinity and co-sponsored by representatives of a large number of our private schools, does anyone believe that it has any chance of passing? Since there are no public school co-sponsors, will the proposal get a fair consideration or will it be seen by some as a private vs. public matter and, thus, be automatically doomed to defeat?
September 29, 200620 yr Proposal 8, in enacted, would be a significant step toward clearing up the "foggy" areas of due process, compliance, investigative procedures, and timely reporting of findings. It is needed. However, since it is proposed by Rob Mullen of Trinity and co-sponsored by representatives of a large number of our private schools, does anyone believe that it has any chance of passing? Since there are no public school co-sponsors, will the proposal get a fair consideration or will it be seen by some as a private vs. public matter and, thus, be automatically doomed to defeat? Can you provide a link to the proposal? I have not heard anything about it.
September 29, 200620 yr http://www.khsaa.org/annualmeeting/20062007/annualmeetingproposals20062007.pdf And I doubt it passes because the LAST thing many proponents of public-private division want is full enforcement of existing rules.
September 29, 200620 yr Don't agree with AT's contingent, but that's not surprising. I would say there are groups/people/schools on both sides that don't want full enforcement of the rules. Prop 8 is interesting. I can see the reasoning behind it. It will give those anti-KHSAA people out there another thing to complain about in regards to the KHSAA. It is sad that adults cannot manage to follow the rules without stretching them super thin or being creative to get around them. It is sad that we even have to get to this point that we have a debate that not following the rules is such a problem that we need a Compliance division.
September 29, 200620 yr I think it is time for everyone that complaigns about rule violations, recruiting and illegal inducements to put up or shut up. This looks like an aggressive method to find and punish the rule breakers. Since it was proposed by Dr Mullin, my guess is that it will fail. Why aren't there more sponsors for enhanced enforcement?
September 29, 200620 yr That's quite a statement. Why do you think that is so? Because I firmly believe that some (note I did not say all) of the most egregious violators of current KHSAA rules are on the public side. They want the private schools eliminated from competition but they want to continue with their status quo.
September 29, 200620 yr I think it is time for everyone that complaigns about rule violations, recruiting and illegal inducements to put up or shut up. This looks like an aggressive method to find and punish the rule breakers. Since it was proposed by Dr Mullin, my guess is that it will fail. Why aren't there more sponsors for enhanced enforcement? A great post. Another question, why did ALL of the private schools co-sponsor this proposal but NONE of the public schools did. Could it be that the truly transparent programs are not public schools?
September 29, 200620 yr Author I think there may be a lot of truth in the posts of All Tell and Trinity Alum. I also think that it is strange that, in light of their public stance supporting strong enforcement of the rules, no publics are co-sponsors. It will be interesting to see the vote on this proposal. Will the most vocal of the publics (Somerset, Eastern, Ashland, etc.) support this measure or not? My guess is that they will not do so. If that is the case, can we assume that their philosophy is "do as I say, not as I do"?
September 29, 200620 yr A great post. Another question, why did ALL of the private schools co-sponsor this proposal but NONE of the public schools did. Could it be that the truly transparent programs are not public schools? Could be the sponsors did not contact public schools to be co-sponsors. Could be they did and got no takers. But I find it hard to believe that out of the whatever # (is it close/over 200) of public schools, none would co-sponsor if they were asked.
September 29, 200620 yr I think there may be a lot of truth in the posts of All Tell and Trinity Alum. I also think that it is strange that, in light of their public stance supporting strong enforcement of the rules, no publics are co-sponsors. It will be interesting to see the vote on this proposal. Will the most vocal of the publics (Somerset, Eastern, Ashland, etc.) support this measure or not? My guess is that they will not do so. If that is the case, can we assume that their philosophy is "do as I say, not as I do"? As has been pointed out many times with private schools, if you have claims of inproprieties with any of the schools you mentioned, you should contact the KHSAA.
September 30, 200620 yr Author Actually, ladiesbballcoach, I think a better solution would be an addendum to Proposal 8 which would provide for punishment of any school which makes accusations which, after investigation, prove to be baseless. If enforced, this would eventually cut down on the workload of KHSAA.
October 2, 200620 yr Off the subject a bit but why does proposal 2 limit private schools to a 20 mile radius but not public schools?
October 2, 200620 yr Off the subject a bit but why does proposal 2 limit private schools to a 20 mile radius but not public schools? Ask the private school representatives of the Board of Control who voted for it.
October 2, 200620 yr Ask the private school representatives of the Board of Control who voted for it. I would love to. Who is it?
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