March 22, 20179 yr A lot of talk about the sons of superstars not living up to their fathers legendary status. Barry Bonds and Ken Griffey Jr were Elite, Bobby and Senior were really good but not Elite. Dale Earnhardt Sr was Elite, Dale Jr is pretty good. Eddie Van Halen is Legendary, Wolfgang Van Halen will never get to that level even though he is the bassist for Van Halen. There are hundreds of Father Son combos where one was Elite or a Superstar and the other was really good but not quite on the same level. So who's the best combo where Father and Son both would be considered Elite or Superstar worthy? Sports, Actors, Musicians?
March 22, 20179 yr Author The First that comes to my mind is from music, Hank Williams and Hank Williams Jr both at one time sat at the top of their genre. You may not like their music but at one point both were the biggest acts in country music.
March 22, 20179 yr Author College Football wise, Archie and Peyton are two of the greatest college QBs of all time.
March 22, 20179 yr The Ken Griffeys. Pops wasn't a superstar, but really really good. Jr., we all know he was a superstar.
March 23, 20179 yr Author Mentioned them in the first post, neither fits the criteria as you said, neither Pop's remotely measured up to their sons.
March 23, 20179 yr The First that comes to my mind is from music, Hank Williams and Hank Williams Jr both at one time sat at the top of their genre. You may not like their music but at one point both were the biggest acts in country music. I've never gotten the fascination with Jr.
March 23, 20179 yr Mentioned them in the first post, neither fits the criteria as you said, neither Pop's remotely measured up to their sons. IMO They do. Even though not superstars they were very good. Peyton, yes, Archie no. Who decides this. I thought it was opinion.
March 23, 20179 yr Archie Manning [TABLE=class: sortable stats_table now_sortable] [TR=class: over_header] [TH=class: center, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, colspan: 5, align: center][/TH] [TH=bgcolor: #EEEEEE][/TH] [TH=class: center, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, colspan: 9, align: center]Passing[/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TH=class: poptip sort_default_asc right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]Year[/TH] [TH=class: poptip sort_default_asc left, bgcolor: #EEEEEE]School[/TH] [TH=class: poptip sort_default_asc left, bgcolor: #EEEEEE]Conf[/TH] [TH=class: poptip sort_default_asc center, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: center]Class[/TH] [TH=class: poptip sort_default_asc center, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: center]Pos[/TH] [TH=class: poptip right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]G[/TH] [TH=class: poptip right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]Cmp[/TH] [TH=class: poptip right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]Att[/TH] [TH=class: poptip right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]Pct[/TH] [TH=class: poptip right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: 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[TD=class: right, align: right]14[/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right]14[/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right]113.1[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: bold] [TH=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]Career[/TH] [TD=class: left, bgcolor: #EEEEEE]Mississippi[/TD] [TD=class: left, bgcolor: #EEEEEE][/TD] [TD=class: center, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: center][/TD] [TD=class: center, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: center][/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right][/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]402[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]761[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]52.8[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]4753[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]6.2[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]4.7[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]31[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]40[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]108.2[/TD] [/TR] 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[TH=class: poptip right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]TD[/TH] [TH=class: poptip right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]Rec[/TH] [TH=class: poptip right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]Yds[/TH] [TH=class: poptip right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]Avg[/TH] [TH=class: poptip right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]TD[/TH] [TH=class: poptip right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]Plays[/TH] [TH=class: poptip right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]Yds[/TH] [TH=class: poptip right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]Avg[/TH] [TH=class: poptip right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]TD[/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TH=class: right, align: right]1968[/TH] [TD=class: left]Mississippi[/TD] [TD=class: left]SEC[/TD] [TD=class: center, align: center][/TD] [TD=class: center, align: center]QB[/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right]10[/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right]110[/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right]208[/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right]1.9[/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right]5[/TD] [TD=class: right, align: 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[TH=class: right, align: right]1970[/TH] [TD=class: left]Mississippi[/TD] [TD=class: left]SEC[/TD] [TD=class: center, align: center][/TD] [TD=class: center, align: center]QB[/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right]8[/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right]80[/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right]113[/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right]1.4[/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right]6[/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right][/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right][/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right][/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right][/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right]80[/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right]113[/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right]1.4[/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right]6[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: bold] [TH=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]Career[/TH] [TD=class: left, bgcolor: #EEEEEE]Mississippi[/TD] [TD=class: left, bgcolor: #EEEEEE][/TD] [TD=class: center, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: center][/TD] [TD=class: center, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: center][/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right][/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]314[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]823[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]2.6[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]25[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]1[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]-2[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]-2.0[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]0[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]315[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]821[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]2.6[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]25[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Hardly Superstar, very good, not superstar. More of a scramble rusher, very average to below passer Avg Yds per pass 4.7 31 Career passing Td's 40 Career Passing Interceptions Sorry the graph did not put the grids in when posted.
March 23, 20179 yr I guess we'll have to wait about 20 years or so to determine if all these clowns in the pros who started adding Sr. to their jerseys are being as silly as all that trend seems.
March 23, 20179 yr If we're jumping across sports, a good case could be made for Ken Norton Sr. and Jr. Ken Jr. won a few SB rings, and Sr. won the HW belt.
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