March 23, 20179 yr Author IMO They do. Even though not superstars they were very good. Peyton, yes, Archie no. Who decides this. I thought it was opinion. It is, no one decides. Archie and Peyton as College QB's not as Pro. Archie is a HoF for his College Play as is Peyton.
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[TH=class: right, align: right]1970[/TH] [TD=class: left]Mississippi[/TD] [TD=class: left]SEC[/TD] [TD=class: center, align: center][/TD] [TD=class: center, align: center]QB[/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right]8[/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right]80[/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right]113[/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right]1.4[/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right]6[/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right][/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right][/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right][/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right][/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right]80[/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right]113[/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right]1.4[/TD] [TD=class: right, align: right]6[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: bold] [TH=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]Career[/TH] [TD=class: left, bgcolor: #EEEEEE]Mississippi[/TD] [TD=class: left, bgcolor: #EEEEEE][/TD] [TD=class: center, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: center][/TD] [TD=class: center, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: center][/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right][/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]314[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]823[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]2.6[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]25[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]1[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]-2[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]-2.0[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]0[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]315[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]821[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]2.6[/TD] [TD=class: right, bgcolor: #EEEEEE, align: right]25[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Hardly Superstar, very good, not superstar. More of a scramble rusher, very average to below passer Avg Yds per pass 4.7 31 Career passing Td's 40 Career Passing Interceptions Sorry the graph did not put the grids in when posted. For the time that he played he was absolutely a Super Star...not compared to today but compared to when he played. Came in 3rd and 4th in Heisman voting.
March 23, 20179 yr Author I've never gotten the fascination with Jr. I lot of people don't, but he was at the top of Country Music for many years.
March 23, 20179 yr Author If we're jumping across sports, a good case could be made for Ken Norton Sr. and Jr. Ken Jr. won a few SB rings, and Sr. won the HW belt. Pretty good also, neither were "The Man" at any point but both had great success.
March 23, 20179 yr For the time that he played he was absolutely a Super Star...not compared to today but compared to when he played. I watched Archie play at Mississippi, but not a lot because they weren't on a lot in those days. Usually one or two games on a Saturday afternoon. 40 picks is the tell for me. That is a lot in any era when you have 31 TD passes. He was an excellent scrambler and runner.
March 23, 20179 yr Author I watched Archie play at Mississippi, but not a lot because they weren't on a lot in those days. Usually one or two games on a Saturday afternoon. 40 picks is the tell for me. That is a lot in any era when you have 31 TD passes. He was an excellent scrambler and runner. Top 4 in Heisman voting twice!!! It was a different game back then.
March 23, 20179 yr Top 4 in Heisman voting twice!!! It was a different game back then. High-risk/high-reward swashbuckler-types got more props then. It's why the original "Longest Yard" still resonates. Sabermetrics and other advanced stuff kills the old guys,
March 23, 20179 yr Top 4 in Heisman voting twice!!! It was a different game back then. It was but 40 Int
March 23, 20179 yr Author It was but 40 Int I don't care if he had 100, he was one of the best QB's in the country those two years and was the 2nd overall pick in the draft. You can't deny he was a College Superstar at the time he played.
March 23, 20179 yr Author Yannik and Joquim Noah both are very accomplished but neither was a super star, both however made it to the top of their professions in different sports.
March 23, 20179 yr Author ^ One of two father-son Presidential duos. Didn't mention the other because I didn't want the :poop: that was bound to follow.
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