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Crosstown Mathcup - Somerset vs. Southwestern Predictions

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In 99 Somerset started playing only one county team each year. That year both Somerset's and SW's scores against Danville and PC were very similar. That year Somerset advanced to the state semifinals while SW lost as a #1 seed in the first round of the playoffs to a #4 seed. If you look at their record overall Somerset has no apologies to make to either one of the county schools as their record dominates the two series even though they are the smallest team. If you look at numbers Somerset should almost never beat either of the county teams.
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That number 4 seed if you can remember should have been a number 1 seed because many of their players sat out due to suspensions a few games in which they had lost, now grant it that is no excuse for losing but that should have been for the region not first round. But it is just funny how things work out though SW's best team in 99 and Somerset decides to only play one county team a year. Now don't get me wrong I have all the respect in the world for Somerset for I have many friends who have played there but it just seems funny that would be the year to say "hmm i am only going to play one county team this year." Congratulations to Somerset for being the paper champions I look forward to a good football game tonight and good luck to both teams and I hope everyone is injury free.

Somerset is 6-3 against SW all time. That is a 2-1 margin 19-7 in county games, they aren't paper champions--they have been dominant against the bigger county schools. I assure you they were not afraid of SW in 99. That year they added a district game so they had one less game to schedule non-district. They were in a district with Danville, Campbellsville, Harrodsburg and Metcalfe Co. Of those 4, 3 were ranked in the preseason top 5 of 1A. Somerset was coming off of a 4-7 season and except for 1 team played all 2 or 3A teams in their pre-district schedule. As I said SW and PC should beat Somerset 3/4 or better of the time according to their numbers and the number of D-1 players produced--it just hasn't worked out that way. Just like all those college players haven't been able to get SW past the 2nd round of the playoffs. Do I think Somerset will win tonight, no really I don't but then again they shouldn't have a chance most years but they've managed to more than hold their own over the years.

Great RESEARCH as always. But I don't think tonight, that your research is going to hold a candle to the 4 years of frustration that the Warriors have been holding onto. This is tonight. Who cares what the all time records are? Records don't mean squat when the pads come on. Of course, you have covered yourself saying that SW will probably win.

 

This is going to be a VERY physical game. I hope noone gets hurt, but at the same time, I hope the Warriors take it to the Jumpers. Somehow, I think they will. But as Cobb said, he isn't worried much about this week's competition. It's just a "game." With that mentality, how does he expect his players to be up for the biggest game (rivalry and gate wise)?

 

And why play only 1 county school? It only makes sense gate wise. Somerset doesn't draw the crowds like they used to. But, being a 1A school, I guess that explains it.

 

Go Warriors. It's rabbit season. All night long.

Somerset is 6-3 against SW all time. That is a 2-1 margin 19-7 in county games, they aren't paper champions--they have been dominant against the bigger county schools. I assure you they were not afraid of SW in 99. That year they added a district game so they had one less game to schedule non-district. They were in a district with Danville, Campbellsville, Harrodsburg and Metcalfe Co. Of those 4, 3 were ranked in the preseason top 5 of 1A. Somerset was coming off of a 4-7 season and except for 1 team played all 2 or 3A teams in their pre-district schedule. As I said SW and PC should beat Somerset 3/4 or better of the time according to their numbers and the number of D-1 players produced--it just hasn't worked out that way. Just like all those college players haven't been able to get SW past the 2nd round of the playoffs. Do I think Somerset will win tonight, no really I don't but then again they shouldn't have a chance most years but they've managed to more than hold their own over the years.

 

 

With all Due Respect to SHS, your post, and you. With the Record against SW, and all the stats you threw out. Whatever the reason was why SHS wouldn’t play us in 1999. I mean all the rumors and talk ( I know you didnt say anything about that, but I have heard talk for 6 years now) about Coach a not wanting to play SHS... Well that’s a load of crap. SW plays the toughest SCH of any school in the county year in and year out. He has never turned down a chance to play a top notch team. (Danville, Boyle (Non-district years), Trinity, Highlands, Glasgow etc....) No one will know the true reason why the bash in 1999 didn’t go down oh well I am over it. We got our game that same year although in Basketball. We stomped SHS twice by 20 + including the District title game but lets compare apples to apples here.... Yeah SHS made it to Semi-state, and we lost to BE in the 1st round (heard it a 1000 times I know I played I was there) However SHS came home to Somerset with the same thing we left SW with the night we lost to BE. A LOSS. Just b/c you made it farther doesn’t mean squat. Just delayed the Inevitable….

 

Somerset is/has been a great program for many years.

SW has been a great program for about 12 years now. # Of D1 players or size of the school really means nothing to me. If a team is ready to play a team is ready to play regardless of size.

 

That being said hope tonight is a great game and good luck to both teams.

 

GO WARRIORS!!!

With all Due Respect to SHS, your post, and you. With the Record against SW, and all the stats you threw out. Whatever the reason was why SHS wouldn’t play us in 1999. I mean all the rumors and talk ( I know you didnt say anything about that, but I have heard talk for 6 years now) about Coach a not wanting to play SHS... Well that’s a load of crap. SW plays the toughest SCH of any school in the county year in and year out. He has never turned down a chance to play a top notch team. (Danville, Boyle (Non-district years), Trinity, Highlands, Glasgow etc....) No one will know the true reason why the bash in 1999 didn’t go down oh well I am over it. We got our game that same year although in Basketball. We stomped SHS twice by 20 + including the District title game but lets compare apples to apples here.... Yeah SHS made it to Semi-state, and we lost to BE in the 1st round (heard it a 1000 times I know I played I was there) However SHS came home to Somerset with the same thing we left SW with the night we lost to BE. A LOSS. Just b/c you made it farther doesn’t mean squat. Just delayed the Inevitable….

 

Somerset is/has been a great program for many years.

SW has been a great program for about 12 years now. # Of D1 players or size of the school really means nothing to me. If a team is ready to play a team is ready to play regardless of size.

 

That being said hope tonight is a great game and good luck to both teams.

 

GO WARRIORS!!!

 

I will agree with you on one thing about the 99 situation, I don't think it had anything to do with Coach Anderson not wanting to play Somerset. Southwestern always plays quality opponents and I've said on BGP several times that I hope with the reduction in the number of district games starting next year that Somerset will schedule both county schools each year, the excitement and gates from those gains are good for all of the programs. As for how things would have went in 99 I guess we'll never know. Somerset didn't bring home a 1A title that year but I wouldn't say that a regional title doesn't mean squat, its something neither of the county schools has ever won.

Where have I been with all this going on!!!!!! Hey guys I believe "Cross Town Rivals" are just that not playing them for what ever reason is sad but I'm sure there were reasons. Anyways let's move to tonight the kids playing tonight were in the 6th grade when all that was going on. Kids play kids they know harder and more agressive than in other games it's a fact. You'll rough your brother up harder than anyone but won't allow no one else to touch him. It's crazy but that's what happens. Good luck both teams and if possible we would all like for the match ups to continue.............LTW.

Nothing like a little gameday smack talk! Looks to be a physical game with lots of emotion as always. Good luck to both teams.

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I don't know when you played or even if you played, but when I played, when there was only one football team in the county, we didn't duck anyone. As a matter of fact, we, a A school playing up in AA, beat several schools that were in AAA and AAAA. We didn't care who it was or where it was being played - a game was one to be won. We had a job to do and we did it.

 

Our coach never went into a game just looking at it as a game to be played. He prepared us to win, just not play the game. I don't know how Cobb can look at it as just another game - "it means more to them than us." :confused: Is he just sending mixed messages or what?

 

When it comes time to lace up the shoes and snap the chinstrap on, I still get goosebumps. Do you?

 

As I said before, I hope SW wins this one and the Jumpers win the rest of them. Play hard and play long.:ylsuper:

Average,

 

I don't know when you played or even if you played, but when I played, when there was only one football team in the county, we didn't duck anyone. As a matter of fact, we, a A school playing up in AA, beat several schools that were in AAA and AAAA. We didn't care who it was or where it was being played - a game was one to be won. We had a job to do and we did it.

 

Our coach never went into a game just looking at it as a game to be played. He prepared us to win, just not play the game. I don't know how Cobb can look at it as just another game - "it means more to them than us." :confused: Is he just sending mixed messages or what?

 

When it comes time to lace up the shoes and snap the chinstrap on, I still get goosebumps. Do you?

 

As I said before, I hope SW wins this one and the Jumpers win the rest of them. Play hard and play long.:ylsuper:

 

Good post with lots of truth in it!!! :thumb:

I've got goosebumps already.

 

And why play only 1 county school? It only makes sense gate wise. Somerset doesn't draw the crowds like they used to. But, being a 1A school, I guess that explains it.

 

 

I've said several times that I wish Somerset would get to play both county schools each year. With 6 district games, the Correll Bowl, a regular game with Danville 8 games have been locked up each year. Most years Somerset and Southwestern (and sometimes Pulaski) play in one of the opening weekend bowl games which takes up the 9th game leaving only one slot. Most of the time that last slot is filled by a team not quite on the level of the first 3 weeks before going into district play--I guess that is just Coach Cobb's preference. However, with the reclassification in effect next year Somerset will only have 5 district games and the county schools 4, hopefully that will mean that all 3 teams get to play each other each year. Somerset still draws a pretty good crowd most weeks, it does drop off when they play some of the weaker teams in their district but so does most teams. Of course they aren't going to draw like they did 20 years ago--there were only 2 local teams back then and Pulaski was just getting started and wasn't very good so they were pretty much the only game in town.

 

As I said before the research/records don't have any bearing on tonight's game, I just thought it was pretty remarkable what Somerset had done as the smallest team in town against the county schools. I also wasn't trying to "cover" myself by saying I thought SW will win--they should, IMO they're the better team this year. Anyway, good luck to both teams hopefully it will be a fun and safe game that will help both teams prepare for their district schedules.

Average,

 

I don't know when you played or even if you played, but when I played, when there was only one football team in the county, we didn't duck anyone. As a matter of fact, we, a A school playing up in AA, beat several schools that were in AAA and AAAA. We didn't care who it was or where it was being played - a game was one to be won. We had a job to do and we did it.

 

Our coach never went into a game just looking at it as a game to be played. He prepared us to win, just not play the game. I don't know how Cobb can look at it as just another game - "it means more to them than us." :confused: Is he just sending mixed messages or what?

 

When it comes time to lace up the shoes and snap the chinstrap on, I still get goosebumps. Do you?

 

As I said before, I hope SW wins this one and the Jumpers win the rest of them. Play hard and play long.:ylsuper:

 

I played at Somerset from 84-87. I've been in Atlanta all week so I haven't read anything previewing the game so I don't really know what Coach Cobb has said about the game. Whatever was in the paper none of us has any idea what he's been saying to his team in practice--I'm sure he'll have them emotionally ready. I'd say his primary concern this week hasn't even been SW, as much fun as these games are for the players and fans, I'd say he's more interested in fixing that defense (and I use that term loosely) before district play. Anyway, I hope everyone has a safe, fun game and the Jumpers come out on top. Realistically though I can't see it happening--that's too far to come on defense in one week--I'll stick with SW somewhere around 35-21.

I will agree with you on one thing about the 99 situation, I don't think it had anything to do with Coach Anderson not wanting to play Somerset. Southwestern always plays quality opponents and I've said on BGP several times that I hope with the reduction in the number of district games starting next year that Somerset will schedule both county schools each year, the excitement and gates from those gains are good for all of the programs. As for how things would have went in 99 I guess we'll never know. Somerset didn't bring home a 1A title that year but I wouldn't say that a regional title doesn't mean squat, its something neither of the county schools has ever won.

 

 

Agree on most....

 

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