So we should vote for someone who condones their spouse cheating 1, 5, 50 times? Someone who wasn't strong enough to leave that man but at the same time, we paint the picture that she's strong enough to stand up to Putin. Says a lot about HRC as a person and a leader if you ask me.

 

I don't care about the cheating at all. I'm not a fan of it , but doesn't sway my vote.

 

I do think a pattern of behavior is being set . Hillary is under investigation by the FBI and Bill hangs with pedophiles.

What are you talking about? Let's set a new standard for intelligent debate/fact-sharing.

 

I think I've been the most fair in this thread. I don't care about cheating I'm not far right . I'm not ignoring all behavior either like the left.

 

I'm looking at a pattern of possible criminal behavior. Hillary is under investigation by the FBI , Bill flew to parties with a guy who throws parties with underaged girls.

 

I'm not setting any low standard. It's hysterical how you and a couple others act like this is a new low. I've been on this boad for over 10 years in different names and this is a middle of the road attack at best.

Let's assume they do.

 

How is HRC hurt? Women who are Ds or undecided or moderate will look at her as a "victim" of a jackball dude. We already knew that. What's going to change amongst voters?

 

Only those naive enough to believe, or those that are mere sheep, can't honestly think she would not have known anything was going on. If she stayed quiet, she is culpable.

 

I'm not saying anything like that happened. If it did, refer to my statement above.

I don't care about Hillary's husband's issues. I don't care about Trump being in his third marriage, how he got to #3 or if his wife posed naked. Those items and others that are similar will have virtually zero impact on my vote.

The logic in this thread would make a great deal of Republicans look terrible because they hung with a pedophile for years as Speaker of the House.

 

Stories like these woukd have damaged the Clintons in the 90's, but they still won. In today's world these stories push moderates to the left.

The logic in this thread would make a great deal of Republicans look terrible because they hung with a pedophile for years as Speaker of the House.

 

Stories like these woukd have damaged the Clintons in the 90's, but they still won. In today's world these stories push moderates to the left.

 

Could you post your facts on this? Or is this just your opinion?

I think I've been the most fair in this thread. I don't care about cheating I'm not far right . I'm not ignoring all behavior either like the left.

 

I'm looking at a pattern of possible criminal behavior. Hillary is under investigation by the FBI , Bill flew to parties with a guy who throws parties with underaged girls.

 

I'm not setting any low standard. It's hysterical how you and a couple others act like this is a new low. I've been on this boad for over 10 years in different names and this is a middle of the road attack at best.

 

A few clarifications:

 

No attack on you. The attack for this type of trash was on Jesse James. No issue with your viewpoint even when we disagree. Always well-crafted which we need more of.

 

I've been around as well. I'm well aware this is not new. It can be counted on every four years. However, THIS along with some other posters IMO is hurting BGP.

Only those naive enough to believe, or those that are mere sheep, can't honestly think she would not have known anything was going on. If she stayed quiet, she is culpable.

 

I'm not saying anything like that happened. If it did, refer to my statement above.

 

We always wonder how someone close to a person didn't know of the deeds done by said person. I get that. Always fair to ask but a bit presumptuous as assume that our doubt must make it true.

So we should vote for someone who condones their spouse cheating 1, 5, 50 times? Someone who wasn't strong enough to leave that man but at the same time, we paint the picture that she's strong enough to stand up to Putin. Says a lot about HRC as a person and a leader if you ask me.

 

Are you holding Trump as the strong spouse? Really? Does he get extra points for bailing on his past wives?

Could you post your facts on this? Or is this just your opinion?

 

Totally my opinion, Cap. It's 2016 and we just aren't as prudish of these things today as we were in the 90's.

 

Trump supporters will get farther lambasting Hillary's sins and ignoring Bill's.

Are you holding Trump as the strong spouse? Really? Does he get extra points for bailing on his past wives?

 

So we can't critique Hillary for letting Bill run around for years, can't critique any of the following either: She was a Goldwater child who voted against civil rights, she once believed marriage was between a man and a women and she voted to go to Iraq. What does she do wrong to liberals or moderates?

I don't care about the cheating at all. I'm not a fan of it ' date=' but doesn't sway my vote. I do think a pattern of behavior is being set . Hillary is under investigation by the FBI and Bill hangs with pedophiles.[/quote']

 

The commander and chief has to be a leader, were essentially putting Unser from SOA in office, it's honestly that simple and clear cut.

So we can't critique Hillary for letting Bill run around for years, can't critique any of the following either: She was a Goldwater child who voted against civil rights, she once believed marriage was between a man and a women and she voted to go to Iraq. What does she do wrong to liberals or moderates?

 

 

Oh, she has TONS of issues that are LEGIT to debate.

 

This isn't one of them IMO and it's silly.

Totally my opinion, Cap. It's 2016 and we just aren't as prudish of these things today as we were in the 90's.

 

Trump supporters will get farther lambasting Hillary's sins and ignoring Bill's.

 

Many of Hillary's sins are tied to her destruction of Bill's many "indiscretions".

I think it is all a waste of time and energy. If Trump wants to make this a focus in the campaign, it is a loser for him. I fully expect Trump to start looking more and more like Bill Clinton in the morals with women category. In some ways, Trump will look worse because he will look like the exact man working women don't like - someone who looks at women as property and uses his power as an executive over women. The man owned the Miss Universe pageant, which many working women consider denigrating and devaluing to women. I am not looking to debate any of this because as I said it is worthless talk. My point is the whole discussion probably hurts Trump more than Hillary so why would the radical right and conservatives travel down this rabbit hole? It only matters to those 35% of the voters in that group and nothing discussed there helps win an election for Trump. Republicans need to realize they have a very flawed candidate in this women's issue, philandering morass and they are better off not focusing energy there.