February 19, 201610 yr Yeah that was in the Shaun King link above...still without video it can't be determined what the exact circumstances were. Maybe he should have been shot, too...maybe there was a valid reason they didn't. Do you think the police were wrong in shooting the guy in this thread? Nope. No way for them to know if it was real or not when they saw it.
February 19, 201610 yr He resisted. I only say "peaceful" because his brains weren't beat in, and he wasn't shot to death. Like the millions of other black, white, Hispanic, Asian, etc people arrested every year without incident.
February 19, 201610 yr Like the millions of other black, white, Hispanic, Asian, etc people arrested every year without incident. Millions of people a year point guns at police and don't get shot? Really?
February 19, 201610 yr Millions of people a year point guns at police and don't get shot? Really? Is that what I said?
February 19, 201610 yr Then what was your point? That the overwhelming majority of people are arrested without getting shot or getting their brains beat in.
February 19, 201610 yr Every situation is different and to compare the two and assume race is the only factor that got one person shot and the other not is ridiculous. There are a lot of unknowns in both incidents, but that won't stop some people (king) from jumping at the chance to further their anti police agenda.
February 19, 201610 yr Every situation is different and to compare the two and assume race is the only factor that got one person shot and the other not is ridiculous. There are a lot of unknowns in both incidents, but that won't stop some people (king) from jumping at the chance to further their anti police agenda. Does the area the incident happens come in to play? Say, suburb versus inner city?
February 19, 201610 yr Does the area the incident happens come in to play? Say, suburb versus inner city? I don't know. I'd bet a lot of things factor in to why someone is or isn't shot. Id bet money that there are people of all races who have pointed guns at police and lived to tell about it. Unfortunately these happened so close together it gives race baiters like King what they think is ammunition.
February 19, 201610 yr So it sounds like the difference was that the cops knew the white dude's gun was fake; not so with the black dude. Black dude's g/f should have told them it was fake and maybe a different outcome. Maybe not. Police: Man pointed fake gun at officers MOUNT HEALTHY - A 26-year-old man pointed a toy handgun at them late Tuesday night when officers responded to a disturbance at a home. Mount Healthy police charged Christopher R. Laugle with menacing and obstructing official business after he grabbed a handgun out of a woman's hand and pointed at two officers who were called to the home in the 1500 block of Adams Street between 11 p.m. and 11:15 p.m., Police Chief Vince Demasi said Friday. Laugle argued with officers and failed to follow their commands and was shot with a Taser stun gun, Demasi said. That incident occurred less than one day before Cincinnati police officers shot and killed 37-year-old man, who had reported brandishing a handgun in Westwood. In that case, officers confronted the man who they said initially complied with their order to drop to his knees. Officers fatally shot Paul Gaston when they said he reached for a gun in his waistband on a street in neighboring Cheviot. Investigators said they found an Airsoft fake handgun after that shooting. Nine shots were fired by three officers. The gun had the bright orange tip, that denotes it a toy, removed from its barrel, said Cincinnati police Lt. Stephen Saunders. It is the second time in two months Cincinnati police shot and killed a man with a fake handgun. Demasi said the incident in Mount Healthy and in Cincinnati are dramatically different, pointing to the fact that Mount Healthy officers were told that the gun in that case was a "toy" and was a fake. The gun also had an orange tip on the barrel. Officers were first called to the home by someone who texted 911 saying they needed help, he said. When officers arrived they spoke with the woman who lived at the home, who told officers she wanted a man, who had been living on her porch, to leave her home. The man did. To ensure the woman safe, the officers asked her if there was anyone else at the home and through a partially opened door saw a second man and a gun lying on a coffee table. The woman told officers the gun was fake, picked it up and was told by officers to put it down. At that point, the man later identified as Laugle grabbed it from her and pointed it at officers, who also told him to put it down. He kept walking toward the officers with the gun, Demasi said. "The officers would have been in their right to use deadly force at that point and thankfully they didn't,'' Demasi said. "They were afforded more time (than Cincinnati in its case), they suspected it to be a fake gun. Those additional seconds saved this guy from being shot."
February 19, 201610 yr Either they talked to two different officers, or somebody changed their story. In the first article, the "officer" said he felt threatened and didn't know if the gun was real.
February 19, 201610 yr Either they talked to two different officers, or somebody changed their story. In the first article, the "officer" said he felt threatened and didn't know if the gun was real. I saw that as well.
February 19, 201610 yr That the overwhelming majority of people are arrested without getting shot or getting their brains beat in. I read it like Deuce was referring to people with guns getting arrested peacefully by the cops and others with guns getting shot or their brains beat in. Not everyone arrested. Ones with guns.
February 19, 201610 yr I wouldn't trust first release stories from any media these days. They don't know. They're just trying to get those clicks. Investigations will be done on both incidents and the facts will come out.
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