She was sexually harassed by Clinton, why do people use the term lover for that? Unless of course they think Bill Cosby had dozens of lovers over the years.

IF she knows she is lying, she is a bigger idiot than all her detractors even think she is.

 

Sociopath is the term that comes to mind.

IF she knows she is lying, she is a bigger idiot than all her detractors even think she is.

 

I hate come off as bashing Ms. Clinton. But her record of lying in numerous official dealings with very well documented - legally and even in the 'liberal' press.

 

This includes:

 

- Watergate. Deliberately lying about the precedent of legal representation as a member of the Watergate team. That got her fired from the committee - by Democrats.

 

- Travelgate. It is known she lied to the independent prosecutor during that.

 

- Whitewater. Another scandal.

 

So her track record, officially, as a liar is there.

 

References (from what most would call 'liberal/left' news organizations):

 

Travelgate Inquiry Suggests Signs of Lies by First Lady - latimes

 

WASHINGTON — There is "substantial evidence" that First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton lied under oath in denying that she played a role in the 1993 White House travel office firings, independent counsel Robert W. Ray reported Thursday.

 

From the NYTimes (though article is by William Safire - a righty):

 

Essay - Blizzard of Lies - NYTimes.com

 

The records show Hillary Clinton was lying when she denied actively representing a criminal enterprise known as the Madison S.& L., and indicate she may have conspired with Web Hubbell's father-in-law to make a sham land deal that cost taxpayers $3 million.

 

We all know politicians will say one thing and do another. Or commit something during the campaign they back off on when in office. So in that regard 'all politicians lie'. But Ms. Clinton does have a specific documented record that is not good when it comes to being open and honest.

Whitewater ... Travelgate ... Paula Jones.

 

If none of these issues derailed the Clintons 20 years ago, why would they prove effective today?

 

Perhaps we should get "Rip Van Winkle" into the thread title.

Whitewater ... Travelgate ... Paula Jones.

 

If none of these issues derailed the Clintons 20 years ago, why would they prove effective today?

 

Perhaps we should get "Rip Van Winkle" into the thread title.

 

If these are remotely true why would you vote for her?

I can't understand anyone who would vote for a proven liar and one who lies about dead hero's families.

 

I guess honesty doesn't matter to some.

 

Trump owned several casinos in Atlantic City and now they're closed, and people are put of jobs. Not just the people who worked there, but also for companies that supplied them. And he tells us he knows how to create jobs.

I will ask everyone in this thread, if these things that are said about Hillary Clinton are true( and she was a government official, Secretary of State, etc, while she did part of them, why would you vote for her?

 

Even Trump( who is not my first choice) readily admits he cost people jobs, readily admits his affair, comes clean. She will not. That is why she cannot be trusted.

If these are remotely true why would you vote for her?

It's like I'm living in a time warp. You seriously think blowing the dust off Travelgate will make a difference in November? If you want to derail Hillary, it ain't going to be done by playing the "liar" card. You're going to have to give blacks, Hispanics, 18-to-30-year-olds and single gals a reason to stay home on election day. That's the only way she loses.

It's like I'm living in a time warp. You seriously think blowing the dust off Travelgate will make a difference in November? If you want to derail Hillary, it ain't going to be done by playing the "liar" card. You're going to have to give blacks, Hispanics, 18-to-30-year-olds and single gals a reason to stay home on election day. That's the only way she loses.

 

Thats not what I asked. Given what you know about this, will you vote for her?

Trump owned several casinos in Atlantic City and now they're closed, and people are put of jobs. Not just the people who worked there, but also for companies that supplied them. And he tells us he knows how to create jobs.

 

That[s a big jump in equivocation.

 

Businesses fail or become non-viable for their owners every day.

 

But its a very far cry from lying to investigators.

It's like I'm living in a time warp. You seriously think blowing the dust off Travelgate will make a difference in November? If you want to derail Hillary, it ain't going to be done by playing the "liar" card. You're going to have to give blacks, Hispanics, 18-to-30-year-olds and single gals a reason to stay home on election day. That's the only way she loses.

 

She inspires none of those groups, don't be surprised if the numbers are WAY off from what she needs. It will not be because of any of the 1990's scandals either.

I will ask everyone in this thread, if these things that are said about Hillary Clinton are true( and she was a government official, Secretary of State, etc, while she did part of them, why would you vote for her?

 

Even Trump( who is not my first choice) readily admits he cost people jobs, readily admits his affair, comes clean. She will not. That is why she cannot be trusted.

 

I can't understand why anyone would vote for either of them, yet here we are...And yes, I know, he's not your first choice, but you are making the conscious decision to cast a vote for him, if he's the Republican nominee. To me, that's every bit as deplorable as someone voting for Hilary.

My guess is that we can ask all the "gotcha questions" we want and demand answers to them. Those of us on both sides of the aisle, those of us in the middle.

 

And we ain't gonna change anybody's mind on here.

I can't understand why anyone would vote for either of them, yet here we are...And yes, I know, he's not your first choice, but you are making the conscious decision to cast a vote for him, if he's the Republican nominee. To me, that's every bit as deplorable as someone voting for Hilary.

 

Im gonna play devils advocate here. What has Trump done thats even on the same level as Hillary? Please answer. I feel we might get somewhere even if mcpapa does not care to come out and play.

Im gonna play devils advocate here. What has Trump done thats even on the same level as Hillary? Please answer. I feel we might get somewhere even if mcpapa does not care to come out and play.

 

This is pointless, but...

 

- He's a bigot

- He hates women

- He hates Muslims

- He was accused of rape by his then wife

- He blamed 9/11 on the President

 

That's just off the top of my head.