Just a quick comment on Fayette County not playing any defense' date=' I think the final scores make people think this. The truth is Fayette County has had some big time game breakers on offense and that has lead to some huge plays. Another thing is I think a lot of talented players are staying on the offensive side of the ball and the defense is suffering.[/quote']

 

 

Didn't help Lafayette score on offense at all against T. Both of their TDs were on special teams.

A couple thoughts in response to the messages above. First, the high schools in Fayette County for the most part do not play their best athletes on D. Most play on O which explains the high scoring games. Next, there is very little interaction between the middle school coaches and high school coaches. In effect what happens is the high schools have to start over when they get the kids as freshmen and start teaching their system and/or re-teach what has been taught to them either from their youth coaches or middle school coaches. The quality of the lines and overall team strength is probably one of the biggest reasons why FCPS schools struggle to match up with the other schools - it's definitely not because of the athletes! Moving on to why it's not all on the middle schools - the youth football systems in Fayette County are the CKYFL and Parks & Recreation with most kids playing in the CKYFL which keeps most of the middle schools from getting their kids until 7th or 8th grade. It's hard to teach kids fundamentals and to get them fully invested in playing middle school football if you only have them for a year! However, there are 2 programs in Fayette County that have really good programs... Jesse Clark has won the FCPS A-Team championship the last 3 years and E.J. Hayes has won the FCPS regular season championship the last 2 seasons and lost in the championship to J.C. the last two years. Combined they have won the District Championship 5 of the last 6 years. Both schools have a 6th grade team as well to make sure that ALL kids are getting valuable experience, playing time and coaching instruction. J.C. feeds into Lafayette and E.J. Hayes feeds into Henry Clay - and both Lafayette's and Henry Clay's coaches are heavily invested in their middle school programs... GO FIGURE!

A couple thoughts in response to the messages above. First, the high schools in Fayette County for the most part do not play their best athletes on D. Most play on O which explains the high scoring games. Next, there is very little interaction between the middle school coaches and high school coaches. In effect what happens is the high schools have to start over when they get the kids as freshmen and start teaching their system and/or re-teach what has been taught to them either from their youth coaches or middle school coaches. The quality of the lines and overall team strength is probably one of the biggest reasons why FCPS schools struggle to match up with the other schools - it's definitely not because of the athletes! Moving on to why it's not all on the middle schools - the youth football systems in Fayette County are the CKYFL and Parks & Recreation with most kids playing in the CKYFL which keeps most of the middle schools from getting their kids until 7th or 8th grade. It's hard to teach kids fundamentals and to get them fully invested in playing middle school football if you only have them for a year! However, there are 2 programs in Fayette County that have really good programs... Jesse Clark has won the FCPS A-Team championship the last 3 years and E.J. Hayes has won the FCPS regular season championship the last 2 seasons and lost in the championship to J.C. the last two years. Combined they have won the District Championship 5 of the last 6 years. Both schools have a 6th grade team as well to make sure that ALL kids are getting valuable experience, playing time and coaching instruction. J.C. feeds into Lafayette and E.J. Hayes feeds into Henry Clay - and both Lafayette's and Henry Clay's coaches are heavily invested in their middle school programs... GO FIGURE!

 

Great first post, thanks for all the info, and I hope you are with us for a long time.

Didn't help Lafayette score on offense at all against T. Both of their TDs were on special teams.

 

You probably didn't read my post to the thread with Trinity vs Lafayette. After it went final I posted Trinity would smash 95 percent of the teams in this state. So saying Lafayette didn't score on Trinity doesn't help in this thread. I said the defenses have suffered, hence the 70 points they allowed. I have no problem giving props to Trinity and Male this season. I even posted that they needed to do a best out 5 and spare the rest of the bracket

C'mon Pep, please leave the Mean Green Machine out of this thread.

You probably didn't read my post to the thread with Trinity vs Lafayette. After it went final I posted Trinity would smash 95 percent of the teams in this state. So saying Lafayette didn't score on Trinity doesn't help in this thread. I said the defenses have suffered, hence the 70 points they allowed. I have no problem giving props to Trinity and Male this season. I even posted that they needed to do a best out 5 and spare the rest of the bracket

 

C'mon Pep, please leave the Mean Green Machine out of this thread.

 

 

All right, since I was asked nicely I will leave you all be. I will give Lafayette credit for how much they seem to have improved. They learned what they needed from their losses this season.

Moving on to why it's not all on the middle schools - the youth football systems in Fayette County are the CKYFL and Parks & Recreation with most kids playing in the CKYFL which keeps most of the middle schools from getting their kids until 7th or 8th grade. It's hard to teach kids fundamentals and to get them fully invested in playing middle school football if you only have them for a year! However, there are 2 programs in Fayette County that have really good programs... Jesse Clark has won the FCPS A-Team championship the last 3 years and E.J. Hayes has won the FCPS regular season championship the last 2 seasons and lost in the championship to J.C. the last two years. Combined they have won the District Championship 5 of the last 6 years. Both schools have a 6th grade team as well to make sure that ALL kids are getting valuable experience, playing time and coaching instruction. J.C. feeds into Lafayette and E.J. Hayes feeds into Henry Clay - and both Lafayette's and Henry Clay's coaches are heavily invested in their middle school programs... GO FIGURE!

 

Yeah, spot-on.

 

I've got a kid on a CKYFL team that just went to Rocky Top this year and won the 8u National Championship division. He's in the Hayes district and we're debating whether or not he's going to play for the school or just CKYFL. We've also heard that the middle schools (Hayes in particular) tend to focus on the 8th grade kids, so that's giving us pause. If other parents are hearing that too, then maybe that has something to do with why the middle schools aren't getting those kids in 6th grade.

 

A couple of the CKYFL teams are well-coached, but outside of that, not so much. They'd probably be better off playing for the middle school, and by extension the high schools would be better off by getting kids that have been well-coached for several years.

That's interesting to hear, Hayes played 10 total B-Team games and 11 total 6th grade games this season.

If I can recall correctly, with the new redistricting plan in place for Fayette County due to the new school for 2017, most of the middle schools with the exception of Southern Middle and Tates Creek Middle (both will feed exclusively into Tates Creek) and Bryan Station Middle (will feed exclusively into Bryan Station High School) will be split between two or more High Schools. Jessie Clark has about 10 streets in their district that will go to Dunbar and everyone else to Lafayette. LTMS will feed into FOUR high schools. That will make it extremely difficult for the High School programs to be invested in the middle school programs due to only being able to get a portion of the middle school players into their school. Fayette County football will be tough to watch at that point. Tates Creek will have a big advantage at that point I just wonder if they will be able to capitalize on it. Bryan station also has an advantage on the other schools with one middle school feeding directly to their high school and about 95% of another MS feeding into them.

 

http://www.fcps.net/media/manual/HSAttendanceAreas1718withMSLarge.pdf

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If I can recall correctly, with the new redistricting plan in place for Fayette County due to the new school for 2017, most of the middle schools with the exception of Southern Middle and Tates Creek Middle (both will feed exclusively into Tates Creek) and Bryan Station Middle (will feed exclusively into Bryan Station High School) will be split between two or more High Schools. Jessie Clark has about 10 streets in their district that will go to Dunbar and everyone else to Lafayette. LTMS will feed into FOUR high schools. That will make it extremely difficult for the High School programs to be invested in the middle school programs due to only being able to get a portion of the middle school players into their school. Fayette County football will be tough to watch at that point. Tates Creek will have a big advantage at that point I just wonder if they will be able to capitalize on it. Bryan station also has an advantage on the other schools with one middle school feeding directly to their high school and about 95% of another MS feeding into them.

 

http://www.fcps.net/media/manual/HSAttendanceAreas1718withMSLarge.pdf

 

Is there that much of a crowding problem in the schools?

Is there that much of a crowding problem in the schools?

 

Apparently enough to warrant a new elementary school opening in 2016 and a new high school opening in 2017. The districting lines has been a pretty hot topic in Lexington since 2013. I think they redrew the lines 3 or 4 times before settling on this plan.

@theguru I know you have mentioned a few times how watered down Fayette County football will be once the new high school is built.

 

Apparently enough to warrant a new elementary school opening in 2016 and a new high school opening in 2017. The districting lines has been a pretty hot topic in Lexington since 2013. I think they redrew the lines 3 or 4 times before settling on this plan.

 

Why not make it open enrollment? Never understood a why not to myself.

Why not make it open enrollment? Never understood a why not to myself.

 

I recall reading an article in the Herald Leader a year or two ago that mentioned open enrollment would lead to too much of an income discrepicancy among the parents of the kids in the schools leading to more advantages to students attending a "higher income school" vs a "lower income school".

I can tell you that JC's will still feed into primarily Lafayette (which should be the team to beat for at least the next 2 seasons in Fayette County) after the new high school is built. E.J. Hayes will be splitting between the new high school and Henry Clay which will really hurt the Henry Clay program. However, that won't really start to show for another 5 years or so as next years Sophomores and Freshmen classes at HC will be outstanding.