footballfan9

It's great to see CAL becoming a football power in their class. When I graduated from there, they didn't even have a football team, so they've definitely come a long way.

Eh... I think you're reading too much into my comment. I was trying to gently say that many of them don't have some of the opportunities that are readily available to others. In general, I was trying to shed some light on the demographics of the school district. The school itself is a stone's throw away from Commonwealth and there are some affluent neighborhoods nearby, but the district at large is comprised of some tough neighborhoods. There's a surprising amount of crime in Lexington for a city it's size. I don't agree with the behavior. I just think it's good to understand some of the details when making assumptions about the effort being put forth by the Lafayette coaching staff. In an attempt to turn this more towards football: does anyone know how many seniors were on Trinity's team? I know Lafayette had nearly 30, so that team will look quite a bit different next year.

That happened right after a kneel-down with seconds left and the coaching staff was busy rounding up players on the sideline. Just prior to the snap, that very same player was fist-bumping some of the T O-line players. After the play, he flipped his hat and then turned and walked to the sideline. Had they seen it and had he remained on the field, you can be sure he would have been met by someone. The incident itself was an embarrassment to himself and to the team, but you can't possibly think that kind of thing would be accepted and ignored.

It isn't surprising that you would have that impression, given the handful of incidents Lafayette has been involved in over the last two years. But I was there last night and I can tell you, though, that Lafayette didn't just run out onto the field and knock the halos off of the Trinity players heads. The unsportsmanlike and personal fouls piled up against each team all night. Heck, Trinity even had more penalties than Lafayette and a bunch of L's were offsides. Like I said, I was surprised by that because I didn't recall T getting many penalties at all in their last two meetings which, by the way, were incident-free. The injury to Wood at the end just kind of escalated things. I was really sad to see things go down like that because it was really starting to look like a game instead of a steamroll that everyone expected. It bugs me a little bit to see the words "classless" and "undisciplined" thrown around by people that have not been around the program. You don't get to the state championship two years in a row without having some football discipline. There are a few kids on the team that have behavioral issues and that spills over onto the field at times. There's no excuse for that. But if you had a chance to see Shaw, McPeek, and the rest of the coaches up close, the last thing you'd say about them or the way they run their team is that they are classless. For those outside of Lexington, I'll throw one last thing out there: there's no other city in Kentucky, outside of Louisville, that has neighborhoods in its district like Lafayette - look it up. A great number of them don't come from privileged homes. Because of where the school itself is located, you wouldn't think that would be the case. Being a native of Louisville, myself, I wouldn't have known unless it had been pointed out to me. I'm not trying to make excuses for the behavior of some of the kids, I'm just saying that before you throw around disparaging words, try to understand the full situation. What they're trying to do with these boys is admirable. Don't celebrate the behavior, but appreciate the effort.

Okay -- I was there tonight. First of all, much of the game was entertaining to watch. At the beginning of the 3rd it was something like 27-21 Trinity. I don't think most would have predicted it would be that close at that point in the game. It was a little chippy up to that point, both teams trading unsportsmanlike's and personal fouls. I've been to almost all of LHS's games this year and I've seen some of that from them, but I don't recall seeing T getting called for so many in their past meetings. Let's be clear though... the jawing was not one-sided. In the 4th, Walker Wood got hit on, what appeared to me to be, a late hit. It wasn't called, but the replay they showed on the scoreboard sure seemed to confirm that. Either way, I'm sure the game is online somewhere if anyone cares to look it up. After they assisted him off the field, the tone of the game took a turn for the worse. More trash-talk started coming and the T student section started chanting "Where is Walker?" which didn't help. Check out the tweets from Herald Leader's Josh Moore for more info there: Josh Moore on Twitter: "When your students start chanting stuff like "Where is Walker?" its easy to understand why folks have hard time appreciating your greatness." At one point, one of Lafayette's players was ejected and I was told one of T's was as well -- didn't see that personally though. At the end of the game, one of Lafayette's players flipped the referee's hat off of his head. The teams did not shake hands at the end of the game for fear of escalation. I believe that was Coach Shaw's decision, and probably the correct one. There wasn't a lot of sportsmanship being shown from either side and there's no sense in allowing a situation that might make things worse. When the trophies were handed out, T's fans booed the person receiving Lafayette's and then the remaining Lafayette fans booed T's presentation. I was very sorry to see the behavior from individual students and fans on both sides. But don't fool yourself into thinking the blame here lies on one side, because it most certainly does not.

I sort of get the talk about discipline, but I will say this: last night's game against Tates Creek they showed a lot of improvement in this area. There were fewer penalties and their secondary coverage was a lot better. These are still areas of concern, but I do see improvement. I'm guessing he's talking about the fact that they've played both Trinity and Male this year? And, of course, Scott County.

I've seen most of their games for the last few years. Don't have a direct association with the school, so I have no motive other than to try and set the record straight. No one was ejected last night. Lafayette did not leave its bench -- Butler did. All season long, teams have been coming after them, knowing they could end Lafayette's season by goading them into another fight. There were tweets discovered by players from another Lexington football team that said they were going to do just that. To date, that has not happened. That surely requires discipline and self-control.

Rescheduled for tomorrow @ 3:00 PM at Ishmael Stadium. Teams will pick up where they left off.

Throw the Scott County game out the window... nothing was decided in that first half. You can say SC was ahead before they forfeited and I can say it was a nearly tied up game with Lafayette making a strong move down the field just after half. They'll get to play again. The Bryan Station game was NOT a shootout, despite the final score. Lafayette had essentially doubled Station's score and pretty much put in second and third string for the rest of the game. I guess that says something about their depth, but that's about it. The starters handled them easily enough by the third quarter. Having said that, they do tend to have defensive lapses. They might put a team into 3 and out with negative yardage on a few possessions and then give up a big play in the secondary on another. They have good athletes, but need better discipline. I wouldn't argue that they should be ranked any higher than X, but like the poster above said... it's pretty much Trinity and then everyone else.

Station had its starters in against Lafayette's younger guys. The score doesn't really reflect the game as it was never in doubt. At one point, I think it was 65 to 29.

55-6, Lafayette wins.

I don't think either team is afraid of the other. I'm pretty sure the guys on both teams wanted to settle it on the field. The lesson to be learned here is that you don't walk off of your own field, leaving the other one behind, and declare yourself the winner over the PA system. Clearly both sides were not in agreement about how to proceed. Find a way to mover forward mutually, or just call the game with the results undecided.

All that aside, I'm sure the kids would have rather played the game on the field instead of through administrators and rule books.

From the Lafayette Generals Facebook page: "According to our AD and the officials, It can't be called a "final" game if both teams do not agree on calling the game with an entire half left to play. Either the game will not count or it Will be rescheduled."

There is a 30 minute lightning delay.

If I recall correctly it was 21-6

Trinity, by a few touchdowns. They have a common opponent this year -- Lafayette. I was at both games and Trinity seemed by far to be the best of those three teams.

I was at the game. Trinity is just that good. They looked very crisp and disciplined. Lafayette is a decent team, but not on that level. The Generals hung in there against Male and destroyed Boyle county (which may not be as impressive as we all thought that was a week ago), and they'll do well in the region --- maybe even go back to the finals. But this is looking like Trinity's year for the taking.

In this game they were.

If competitive is your benchmark for respectable then so be it -- Lafayette was never a threat to pull ahead. In reference to "calling it a joke", I mistakenly addressed you instead of All Tell who made the statement.

I suppose respectable can mean a lot of different things to different people. To me, it just means that it wasn't the embarrassing shutout that people predicted. There was less than a two touchdown difference until nearly the end of the third quarter, when a couple of turnovers opened it up. It was a fun back-and-forth game to watch up until that point. Let's face it, any bracket with Male, Trinity, and St. X in it is going to mean that the other side is facing an uphill battle. I don't know what you do to fix it, but calling it a joke is a little harsh. Like I said - this type of tournament doesn't guarantee the two best -- just the last two standing.

How so? They clearly learned something by their losses and improved, just as any team should. They lost to T and SC early in the season, but came back to beat SC in their second meeting and played respectably in the final against Male (which beat T twice). I don't think you can automatically throw out a team because they have a bad loss, and it doesn't make it a joke that they improved and won their bracket. People were ready to count out Ohio St in the CFP last year because of their loss to VT. Scoreboard numbers don't matter as much as Ws and Ls. Any bracketed tournament isn't automatically going to produce the two best teams, and it doesn't mean a team that might be third, fourth, or fifth best overall that makes it to the final is a joke. It's just the way it works.

It doesn't matter what the scores were during the regular season. Once you get into the playoffs, all that matters is that you win your game and move on to the next. As it happens, Lafayette won all the games in their side of the bracket to get to the Championship and that's just how it works. If you actually watched the game, you can't say that they were undeserving. Anyone in their bracket facing Male would have fared as well or worse.

This is what happens when you put teenagers on TV after an emotional situation. You have to temper your expectations. On another day, or after he's had some time to reflect, I'm sure you'd get a more palatable answer. He wasn't disrespectful to Male, and I don't think there's much to be upset about. We didn't even get to hear the question posed by the reporter.

Yeah, spot-on. I've got a kid on a CKYFL team that just went to Rocky Top this year and won the 8u National Championship division. He's in the Hayes district and we're debating whether or not he's going to play for the school or just CKYFL. We've also heard that the middle schools (Hayes in particular) tend to focus on the 8th grade kids, so that's giving us pause. If other parents are hearing that too, then maybe that has something to do with why the middle schools aren't getting those kids in 6th grade. A couple of the CKYFL teams are well-coached, but outside of that, not so much. They'd probably be better off playing for the middle school, and by extension the high schools would be better off by getting kids that have been well-coached for several years.