Is it time for a National ID Card?

[theguru]

The government already spies on all of its citizens. They have our emails, texts, phone records, purchase records, financial information, and I would speculate psychological profiles on each of us based on the sheer amount of information collected. I am sure our government has much more too.

 

With all that in mind why not go to a National ID Card? Wouldn't it make a lot of the issues we have simple and easy to track and address? Frankly, a National ID Card is child's play compared to much of the information the government collects and already has on each of us.

 

So yes or no, is it time for a National ID Card?

[Clyde]

What would be on it and how would it be used?

 

Who would benefit and how would they benefit?

[jericho]

I have nothing to fear.

[lawildcat]

Isn't that what my passport is, really?

[theguru]

What would be on it and how would it be used?

 

Off the top of my head accounting purposes. Your name and DOB. Also a unique National ID number that can be seprate from a social security number. Everyone would have to have one to work any type of job. Any fraud with these cards would be at two levels, big felony and bigger felony. You don't have to be a citizen but you have to have a National ID Card. It is a way to make everyone "within the law" until we sort everything else out. And this is all off the top of my head Clyde.

[theguru]

Isn't that what my passport is, really?

 

My last passport took eight months to renew and that was paying extra for quicker service. That system is a complete mess. I would implement the National ID system right along with the Drivers Licence Systems in each state. The Feds give the software to each of the states so that every card is exactly the same. The equipment to do it should be a piece of cake in our high tech world.

 

Of course this would also be used for an enhanced facial recognition database.

 

We are headed this way so we might as well get out in front of it if we want to save lives and be as humane as possible.

[Clyde]

Off the top of my head accounting purposes. Your name and DOB. Also a unique National ID number that can be seprate from a social security number. Everyone would have to have one to work any type of job. Any fraud with these cards would be at two levels, big felony and bigger felony. You don't have to be a citizen but you have to have a National ID Card. It is a way to make everyone "within the law" until we sort everything else out. And this is all off the top of my head Clyde.

 

Who benefits?

How much would it cost to implement? What do we taxpayers get as a return on the investment?

How much would it cost to maintain?

Who would have access to the data?

[theguru]

I have nothing to fear.

 

I not only have nothing to fear it would make America a much safer place.

 

Eventually in the future we will go a step further and the cards will have microchips on them that can be scanned. As long as you are carrying your NIDC you cool. If not, be prepared for armed government agents stopping you.

[theguru]

Who benefits?

How much would it cost to implement? What do we taxpayers get as a return on the investment?

How much would it cost to maintain?

Who would have access to the data?

 

We all benefit.

 

With current tech it wouldn't be that expensive and it has to be way way cheaper than all wars we fight.

 

The Feds would have the data just like they already have everything else on us. No commercial interests at all, not even Google is allowed to access the info. NIDC's are never to be allowed for any commercial purposes at all and/or collected by any other entity besides the Feds.

[Jumper_Dad]

If people can't figure out a way to get an ID currently (evidently they can't, that's why everyone is against Voter ID laws) then how in the world can they be expected to get a National ID card?

[lawildcat]

Hell, why don't we just chip everybody.

[theguru]

If people can't figure out a way to get an ID currently (evidently they can't, that's why everyone is against Voter ID laws) then how in the world can they be expected to get a National ID card?

 

Maybe you put the NIDC Office right next to the Welfare Office then that won't be a problem.

[Jumper_Dad]

Maybe you put the NIDC Office right next to the Welfare Office then that won't be a problem.

Or maybe with the guy passing out free phones from his trunk in the parking lot of the local convenience store.

[theguru]

Or maybe with the guy passing out free phones from his trunk in the parking lot of the local convenience store.

 

Or pre-program the number/location in the free phones.

[75center]

Government already has a boatload of information on just about everyone. Name, DOB, SS#, address, bank account number, past employers, parents, siblings, children..... Can't see where a national ID card gives them anything more and might simply some other things such as voting and signing up for various govt benefits.