November 19, 201510 yr A little surprised that it was Arrieta although I thought he was deserving. Split votes on the Dodgers help him?
November 19, 201510 yr A little surprised that it was Arrieta although I thought he was deserving. Split votes on the Dodgers help him? Grienke's ERA was only .10 points better than Arrietta and he had the most wins. Also had almost as many strikeouts as Kershaw. I think it would have been a crime for anybody other than Arrietta to win it. His numbers were as good as anyones across the board, but he also had more wins and then the no-hitter as well.
November 19, 201510 yr Grienke 19 wins, 200 k's and 1.66 ERA in 222.2 innings Arrieta 22 wins, 236 k's, 1.77 ERA in 229 innings. How exactly did Grienke get screwed?
November 20, 201510 yr Dallas Keuchel (Astros) Jake Arrieta (Cubs) Keuchel never made All State in high school.
November 20, 201510 yr Grienke 19 wins, 200 k's and 1.66 ERA in 222.2 innings Arrieta 22 wins, 236 k's, 1.77 ERA in 229 innings. How exactly did Grienke get screwed? Exactly! His ERA was off the charts, but so was Arietta's. Arietta trumps him on wins, strikeouts, innings, and all other significant categories. So what are people saying? That this should be strictly an ERA award? Arietta was as lights out down the stretch as anyone could have been. He went on a run where he only allowed 3-4 runs in 7-8 games.
November 20, 201510 yr I wonder how many Cy Young winners never made the all star game. I wouldn't think there would be too many. Arietta was unreal the second half of the season.
November 20, 201510 yr Exactly! His ERA was off the charts, but so was Arietta's. Arietta trumps him on wins, strikeouts, innings, and all other significant categories. So what are people saying? That this should be strictly an ERA award? Arietta was as lights out down the stretch as anyone could have been. He went on a run where he only allowed 3-4 runs in 7-8 games. What about WHIP?
November 20, 201510 yr What about WHIP? Grienke's was better. Grienke also had a WAR of almost 1.0 better than Arietta. Grienke did it the entire season. Arietta did it for 2.5 months. To me, that matters.
November 20, 201510 yr Grienke's was better. Grienke also had a WAR of almost 1.0 better than Arietta. Grienke did it the entire season. Arietta did it for 2.5 months. To me, that matters. I can get behind your statistical logic. I can't get behind the last part about "when." He didn't strike out 236 people in 2.5 months. It's why you look at an entire season. Look at final numbers and use them to make a determination. I can see the argument for Greinke but I can see it for Jake as well.
November 20, 201510 yr Grienke's was better. Grienke also had a WAR of almost 1.0 better than Arietta. Grienke did it the entire season. Arietta did it for 2.5 months. To me, that matters. I agree. I said I would have voted for Grienke
November 20, 201510 yr Grienke's was better. Grienke also had a WAR of almost 1.0 better than Arietta. Grienke did it the entire season. Arietta did it for 2.5 months. To me, that matters. I looked up the splits. Arrrieta had one bad month - 1 -3 3.99 ERA His crazy good post ASB splits just make the pre-ASB numbers seem ehh.
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