Can anyone explain what an illegal pitich is....:confused:

 

http://www.somerset-kentucky.com/localsports/local_story_161113411.html

To my understanding, there are certain restrictions on a pitchers motions which can result in an illegal pitch call. However, if the pitcher had done it 20 times already, why wasn't she warned or called for it earlier in the game? This makes no sense whatsoever. It she threw it 20 times or more, then it should have been called the first time or at least a warning given.

 

I saw a pitcher's motion come into question in the minor league state tourney last year. The opposing coach brought it to the attention of the umpire, the umpire explained the situation and rule to the player and the coach, and the problem was rectified. But to do it when it was done, makes no sense to me at all.

 

Not to nitpick, but shouldn't this be in the softball forum?

Thanks and yes it should i'll have someone move it....When i posted i thought i was in the softball forum duh...:creepy: What also bothered me with this call was the Associate Commissioner had to come out of the stands to tell the umpire to make the call.Maybe the commish should have been umpireing:irked:

Thanks and yes it should i'll have someone move it....When i posted i thought i was in the softball forum duh...:creepy: What also bothered me with this call was the Associate Commissioner had to come out of the stands to tell the umpire to make the call.Maybe the commish should have been umpireing:irked:

 

No doubt. Or at least have the umpire issue a warning. Since the girl had done whatever the violation was 20 times already, it had probably become a habit on certain pitches.

What? Isn't this the right forum?

Thanks and yes it should i'll have someone move it....When i posted i thought i was in the softball forum duh...:creepy: What also bothered me with this call was the Associate Commissioner had to come out of the stands to tell the umpire to make the call.Maybe the commish should have been umpireing:irked:

 

 

I was there and the pitcher pitched the same way she did all year long. That tells me someone needs to get a hold of the 12th region umpires and get them on track. I am not sure if they were calling replanting, or "crow hopping" as some call it or they were calling her for being out of the line extended from the rubber to the plate. I heard both were called but I am not sure. The 12th region umps are the worlds worst for allowing "crow hopping". Everyone has been on them for years to make the call. southwesterns pitchers are bad for hoppin. North and South Laurels pitchers hop but when it is called they will then keep the toe on the ground. as for the commish coming out to tell them to make the call, I am assuming the better teams have been complaining about illegal pitches helping keep things even.

 

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Can anyone explain what an illegal pitich is....:confused:

 

http://www.somerset-kentucky.com/localsports/local_story_161113411.html

 

 

Was the article printed somewhere besides the Somerset local paper?

 

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Was the article printed somewhere besides the Somerset local paper?

 

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I havent found it anywhere else..

That illegal pitch called on Randolph in the seventh inning, the third time she had been hit with that penalty on the day

 

Looks like the umpire had warned Randolph already by calling two previous illegal pitches.

I was there and the pitcher pitched the same way she did all year long. That tells me someone needs to get a hold of the 12th region umpires and get them on track. I am not sure if they were calling replanting, or "crow hopping" as some call it or they were calling her for being out of the line extended from the rubber to the plate. I heard both were called but I am not sure. The 12th region umps are the worlds worst for allowing "crow hopping". Everyone has been on them for years to make the call. southwesterns pitchers are bad for hoppin. North and South Laurels pitchers hop but when it is called they will then keep the toe on the ground. as for the commish coming out to tell them to make the call, I am assuming the better teams have been complaining about illegal pitches helping keep things even.

 

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I have seen tons of pitchers crow hopping at all levels. In many tourneys, you see it far too much. But it should be called and actually caught at the younger ages to keep it from becoming a habit when they reach the next level.

I have seen tons of pitchers crow hopping at all levels. In many tourneys, you see it far too much. But it should be called and actually caught at the younger ages to keep it from becoming a habit when they reach the next level.

 

 

Watch college, D-1 they don't hop. The 12th region umps said "they don't call it at college", but when I watch it they keep the toe on the ground. I didn't see her crow hop and I watched her from different views. If she did, call it BUT make sure the umps are calling it EVERYWHERE.

 

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I was at the game as well. I also talked to the umpires on the bases after the game. The home plate umpire was nowhere to be found. (Imagine that) The explanation they gave was that the young lady in question was sliding all the way off the rubber to the side when she pitched. That is the home plate umpires call to make. The umpire on 1st base said that he had gone over and warned the pitcher several times throughout the game, but she kept starting on the middle of the rubber instead of scooting over to the edge before her wind up. I do have a couple of problems with this situation. First, let me say that I was watching the game as a spectator with no vested interest in that game.

I thought that it was in bad taste that someone from the KHSAA walked down to the field in the middle of the game to tell the umpires to watch for that. The umpires are chosen because they are supposed to be the best in their regions. Let them make the calls on the field and trust that they can do it. The coaches could see him walk down and call the umpires over, so you know that when they called it the next inning, they knew what had happened.

I also thought that the umpire calling it early, giving her a warning later and then calling it in the 7th inning with a girl on third was a little suspect. I talked with several umpires from other regions during the game and they all said that if you're going to call it, call it "early and often". The umpire let this girl do it a lot more than he called it, letting the young lady think that she was o.k.

How does it get fixed? That's what the KHSAA needs to figure out. In the region I'm in, you never see an illegal pitch called, and I know that there are a lot of regions that are the same. The shame here is that the pitcher may not have known that she was illegal, and when they called her on it in the state tourney, it might have been the first that she had heard about it.

Watch college, D-1 they don't hop. The 12th region umps said "they don't call it at college", but when I watch it they keep the toe on the ground. I didn't see her crow hop and I watched her from different views. If she did, call it BUT make sure the umps are calling it EVERYWHERE.

 

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I agree and I have watched college. You don't see the D1 pitchers crow hop. That is why you rarely see it called in college. I don't remember saying that they did. What I am saying is that I have seen a TON of pitchers in tournaments all over from little girls up, and too often, they allow them to crow hop. The umps need to call it because if they do, it will stop. I know that most of the little league coaches in our area work with their girls NOT to crow hop or to even start that habit. It is an easy call to make IF the umps will just watch for it.

 

Why the fight symbol there boom? I thought we were just having a friendly discussion here?!?

should have been called earlier in the game, umpr should never be put in a position where they can REALLY affect the outcome of a game. Crow hopping should be dealt with at the middle school level at the latest, but most MS coaches never have this called on their pitchers because most schools use home grown umps who generaly know less than the coaches. The girls need to learn the proper way early because it took me half a season to break one of my pitchers from crow hopping and to get her pitching back to form.

should have been called earlier in the game, umpr should never be put in a position where they can REALLY affect the outcome of a game. Crow hopping should be dealt with at the middle school level at the latest, but most MS coaches never have this called on their pitchers because most schools use home grown umps who generaly know less than the coaches. The girls need to learn the proper way early because it took me half a season to break one of my pitchers from crow hopping and to get her pitching back to form.

 

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The little league coaches I know address this with their pitchers immediately if they start to do this to prevent it from becoming a habit.