And that's why it's ignorant. All you're doing is perpetuating the hate. Meanwhile, some of us are out fighting stupid stuff like your statements by stopping and talking with minorities in lower income areas, handing out stickers, coloring books, stuffed animals, having lunch with these kids, etc., trying to mend those fences and stupid stuff like you posted keeps getter by put out there. If you aren't interested in helping, keep your stupid remarks to yourself.

 

Save all that bull crap drama. If you think anyone is paying attention to anything I post then you are sorely mistaken. It's amazing how much ignorant and racist stuff is said on here that some people wholeheartedly agree with that nobody says anything about but say something bad about the police and folks lose their minds. My posts aren't perpetuating hate anymore than any of these other ignorant posts that are said on here. You just don't agree with them so you get all dramatic. How about you keep your dramatic posts to yourself and we can all continue to ignore the real issue at play and the whole post that got this started. A cop was killed but where is the outrage, rioting and looting? An ignorant post got this all started.

Save all that bull crap drama. If you think anyone is paying attention to anything I post then you are sorely mistaken. It's amazing how much ignorant and racist stuff is said on here that some people wholeheartedly agree with that nobody says anything about but say something bad about the police and folks lose their minds. My posts aren't perpetuating hate anymore than any of these other ignorant posts that are said on here. You just don't agree with them so you get all dramatic. How about you keep your dramatic posts to yourself and we can all continue to ignore the real issue at play and the whole post that got this started. A cop was killed but where is the outrage, rioting and looting? An ignorant post got this all started.

Don't make ignorant posts and you won't get upset when you get called out on the carpet for them.

 

The point was that many people actually think the way you posted about whether you were joking or not. Many people are serious when they say what you say and others believe them when they hear statements like that.

 

You can act as if it's just a joke but there are too many out there looking for any excuse to rebel and saying what you said is all they need if they believe it.

Save all that bull crap drama. If you think anyone is paying attention to anything I post then you are sorely mistaken. It's amazing how much ignorant and racist stuff is said on here that some people wholeheartedly agree with that nobody says anything about but say something bad about the police and folks lose their minds. My posts aren't perpetuating hate anymore than any of these other ignorant posts that are said on here. You just don't agree with them so you get all dramatic. How about you keep your dramatic posts to yourself and we can all continue to ignore the real issue at play and the whole post that got this started. A cop was killed but where is the outrage, rioting and looting? An ignorant post got this all started.

 

Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt

 

And you sir have removed all doubt...

Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt

 

And you sir have removed all doubt...

 

Oh but of course. :thumb:

 

:lol2: :lol2:

A cop was killed but where is the outrage, rioting and looting? An ignorant post got this all started.

 

Ignorant by whose standards? Yours?

 

As I said in an earlier post, you missed the point entirely. What I want is for people to have the same passion for a murdered police officer as they do for a criminal that is killed.

 

Until you understand that, you are part of the problem.

Ignorant by whose standards? Yours?

 

As I said in an earlier post, you missed the point entirely. What I want is for people to have the same passion for a murdered police officer as they do for a criminal that is killed.

 

Until you understand that, you are part of the problem.

 

That's my whole point. Ignorant statements are statements you and people of your ilk don't agree with. There are different viewpoints on what the problems are other than what you say is right and wrong or ignorant.

 

You don't think for one second that this whole thread would have been better served had you offered up proper condolences for a fallen officer? You don't think for one second that instead of asking where is the outrage, rioting and looting and wording your passionate feelings in a more appropriate manner that this whole thread could have been better served? My reaction to your statement that got this whole thread is the problem but your reactionary causing post isn't an issue at all? Let's not act like I'm the only one who felt the same way about your initial post. I'm just the only one who responded in an inciteful manner.

 

Even worse is that fundamentally I have always agreed with a lot of the sentiment that you all say when it comes to the police and things that happen. My frustration lies in the fact that you all refuse to acknowledge why people protest and express outrage and do stupid stuff like riot and loot. Not one time have I ever condoned any of the rioting or looting or violence against the police and have expressed that multiple times on here. I have tried in earnest to get plenty of you to understand the mindset of people in the inner city and the borderline racist comments, the close minded posts, the incendiary posts, the race baiting posts and the shade thrown at those who don't agree with any of you high and mighty folks gets old. I'm part of the problem? Please, part of the problem has been the same thing for decades. People say how they feel and if people get their feelings hurt about the statement and then refuse to ask why someone would feel that way and search for a common ground. Folks would rather throw insults and remain close minded. I don't have a problem doing that as well. Being close minded is something I wish I did a whole lot more often.

I'll never understand how one side of the snide comments is part of the problem but the other side of the snide comments isn't.

 

That's the damn problem.

That's my whole point. Ignorant statements are statements you and people of your ilk don't agree with. There are different viewpoints on what the problems are other than what you say is right and wrong or ignorant.

 

You don't think for one second that this whole thread would have been better served had you offered up proper condolences for a fallen officer? You don't think for one second that instead of asking where is the outrage, rioting and looting and wording your passionate feelings in a more appropriate manner that this whole thread could have been better served? My reaction to your statement that got this whole thread is the problem but your reactionary causing post isn't an issue at all? Let's not act like I'm the only one who felt the same way about your initial post. I'm just the only one who responded in an inciteful manner.

 

Even worse is that fundamentally I have always agreed with a lot of the sentiment that you all say when it comes to the police and things that happen. My frustration lies in the fact that you all refuse to acknowledge why people protest and express outrage and do stupid stuff like riot and loot. Not one time have I ever condoned any of the rioting or looting or violence against the police and have expressed that multiple times on here. I have tried in earnest to get plenty of you to understand the mindset of people in the inner city and the borderline racist comments, the close minded posts, the incendiary posts, the race baiting posts and the shade thrown at those who don't agree with any of you high and mighty folks gets old. I'm part of the problem? Please, part of the problem has been the same thing for decades. People say how they feel and if people get their feelings hurt about the statement and then refuse to ask why someone would feel that way and search for a common ground. Folks would rather throw insults and remain close minded. I don't have a problem doing that as well. Being close minded is something I wish I did a whole lot more often.

Not all disagreed with me.

 

You throw insults as much as anyone on this board and you want to lecture others on how they post? Take some of your own advice.

 

As far as people wanting to protest, I have no problem at all with legitimate protests. I do have a problem with anyone that wants to loot and riot. I get frustrated with things but I don't use it as an excuse to go steal and destroy something someone else has worked hard for. I will never respect that.

 

No one high and mighty here. I'm as regular of a guy as you can meet. I just have a low tolerance for bovine feces and call it like I see it.

 

When society starts having as much passion for a murdered officer as they do a criminal that has been killed, I will understand. Until then, I will continue to be a voice for them, whether to your standards or not.

Not all disagreed with me.

 

You throw insults as much as anyone on this board and you want to lecture others on how they post? Take some of your own advice.

 

As far as people wanting to protest, I have no problem at all with legitimate protests. I do have a problem with anyone that wants to loot and riot. I get frustrated with things but I don't use it as an excuse to go steal and destroy something someone else has worked hard for. I will never respect that.

 

No one high and mighty here. I'm as regular of a guy as you can meet. I just have a low tolerance for bovine feces and call it like I see it.

 

When society starts having as much passion for a murdered officer as they do a criminal that has been killed, I will understand. Until then, I will continue to be a voice for them, whether to your standards or not.

 

I throw shade and insults in response to things that are said. I don't start out with shade or insults. If folks want to play in the mud I'll get dirty. No problem with that at all. I just think it's funny that people get mad at what I say in response to posts that I feel cross the line.

 

I have an extremely low tolerance for bull crap too. Especially lately. Mid life crisis maybe. Life changes. Not sure. I just know that if I feel something I am going to say it. I'm tired of holding my tongue and definitely tired of all of the frustrations that come with searching for common ground when no one cares about common ground.

I throw shade and insults in response to things that are said. I don't start out with shade or insults. If folks want to play in the mud I'll get dirty. No problem with that at all. I just think it's funny that people get mad at what I say in response to posts that I feel cross the line.

 

I have an extremely low tolerance for bull crap too. Especially lately. Mid life crisis maybe. Life changes. Not sure. I just know that if I feel something I am going to say it. I'm tired of holding my tongue and definitely tired of all of the frustrations that come with searching for common ground when no one cares about common ground.

 

If you are searching for common ground, try seeing things from a different perspective as you are asking others to do. You can't always expect someone else to do all the hard lifting. I know I don't.

If you are searching for common ground, try seeing things from a different perspective as you are asking others to do. You can't always expect someone else to do all the hard lifting. I know I don't.

 

I do see things from a different perspective so as you stated, "maybe you should take your own advice."

 

As I stated I normally agree with most things that you say about the police and I have said so multiple times in numerous threads. I'm still waiting for folks to say they understand the unrest in the inner cities without folks saying that people care more for a criminal than a murdered police officer. Is that a perspective you might be interested in?

Here is the problem I really have with the reasoning some have for approving the way the media handles incidents such as Ferguson to name just one. It's when someone like Djason says things like this

 

"My frustration lies in the fact that you all refuse to acknowledge why people protest and express outrage and do stupid stuff like riot and loot. "

 

Then protest incidents that deserve to be protested, not an incident that has no right to be protested such as Ferguson. Don't make a martyr out of someone that more likely than not deserved what he got like Michael Brown did. Don't use thugs and criminals and make them out to be saints just so you can make up a reason to protest. If people want to say stupid things such as Djason said, then I have no use for him or what message he has because he is wrong period. If you want to tie something totally unrelated to another incident just so you can cry wolf and destroy property and hurt other innocent people then as far as I'm concerned you get what you deserve when people start thinking you have absolutely zero credibility.

 

Have a problem with how Rodney King was treated? I will stand right next to you protesting, but when you act as if every incident that occurs is just another Rodney King incident then I turn and walk away because you then show true ignorance and make everything a black and white issue when it isn't.

Here is the problem I really have with the reasoning some have for approving the way the media handles incidents such as Ferguson to name just one. It's when someone like Djason says things like this

 

"My frustration lies in the fact that you all refuse to acknowledge why people protest and express outrage and do stupid stuff like riot and loot. "

 

Then protest incidents that deserve to be protested, not an incident that has no right to be protested such as Ferguson. Don't make a martyr out of someone that more likely than not deserved what he got like Michael Brown did. Don't use thugs and criminals and make them out to be saints just so you can make up a reason to protest. If people want to say stupid things such as Djason said, then I have no use for him or what message he has because he is wrong period. If you want to tie something totally unrelated to another incident just so you can cry wolf and destroy property and hurt other innocent people then as far as I'm concerned you get what you deserve when people start thinking you have absolutely zero credibility.

 

Have a problem with how Rodney King was treated? I will stand right next to you protesting, but when you act as if every incident that occurs is just another Rodney King incident then I turn and walk away because you then show true ignorance and make everything a black and white issue when it isn't.

 

While I find Djason to be a "dazzling urbanite," I just don't see him as the rioting type.

 

Jokes aside, you're missing the point. It's not THAT Ferguson went up in flames. It's WHY. Whether Darren Wilson was justified or not in his actions is kind of not the point. It's why the people of that town reacted the way they did to the shooting of Michael Brown. And we can change the names of the city, the cop and the shooting victim and the problem is still there.

While I find Djason to be a "dazzling urbanite," I just don't see him as the rioting type.

 

Jokes aside, you're missing the point. It's not THAT Ferguson went up in flames. It's WHY. Whether Darren Wilson was justified or not in his actions is kind of not the point. It's why the people of that town reacted the way they did to the shooting of Michael Brown. And we can change the names of the city, the cop and the shooting victim and the problem is still there.

 

"Dazzling urbanite". I like that. :thumb:

"Dazzling urbanite". I like that. :thumb:

 

It's admittedly ripped from a Gene Wilder line from "Blazing Saddles." For you, it's totally apropos. "What's a dazzling urbanite such as yourself doing in a rustic setting like this?"