The Pats were underinflated by about 1 PSI if I recall correctly. Not sure on how many were. No idea as to how underinflated the Colts footballs were. It doesn't matter IMO. Underinflated footballs is cheating, right? If that's the case, both teams were caught cheating.

 

So if Brady more probably than not generally knew what was going on, wouldn't it stand to reason that Luck also more probably than not generally knew what was going on with the Colts balls?

 

Boy you're trying awfully hard. I would too in your shoes.

Boy you're trying awfully hard. I would too in your shoes.

 

You can't dismiss the fact that 75% of the Colts' footballs that were tested were under inflated and then chastise the Patriots in the same breath. By the logic being used by many in this thread, they are either both guilty, or neither of them are. You can't have it both ways.

Boy you're trying awfully hard. I would too in your shoes.

 

So to you, it's no big deal that the Colts used underinflated footballs, but it's deliberate cheating that the Patriots did?

 

That makes no sense.

 

"I would too in your shoes"? :lol2: Not really. The outcome of this has zero bearing on my fandom.

You can't dismiss the fact that 75% of the Colts' footballs that were tested were under inflated and then chastise the Patriots in the same breath. By the logic being used by many in this thread, they are either both guilty, or neither of them are. You can't have it both ways.

 

The Colts balls were under-inflated due to the weather conditions. The Patriots were because of some sinister evil plan by that dirty cheater Tom Brady! Duh Deuce, you know that! :lol2:

Carry the water boys, carry the water.

Did some checking, Colt's balls were all within the accepted range. NONE of the Pats were:

 

Let’s look at what we know:

 

Jim McNally, often calling himself the “deflator”, took all game balls for both teams into a locked bathroom. Said he was using the urinal. There was no urinal in that bathroom.

 

McNally was all of a sudden quite popular with Brady when the story broke. Texts, calls and a personal meeting with Brady, that had never happened in Brady’s entire career.

 

McNally received all kinds of signed gifts.

 

From the report:

• "All 11 of the Patriots game balls tested measured below the minimum pressure level of 12.5 pounds per square inch ("psi") allowed by Rule 2... The four Colts balls tested each measured within the 12.5 to 13.5 psi range." Scientific studies were conducted that determined a 0.4 percent chance "that the difference in average drops between the teams occurred by chance."

 

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck ....

NFL Initially Gave Patriots Bad Information Regarding PSI Levels of Tested Balls

 

“The inspection, which involved each ball being inspected twice with different gauges, revealed that none of the Patriots’ game balls were inflated to the specifications required under Rule 2, Section 1,” Gardi wrote. “In fact, one of the game balls was inflated to 10.1 psi, far below the requirement of 12-1/2 to 13-1⁄2 psi. In contrast, each of the Colts’ game balls that was inspected met the requirements set forth above.”

 

The Wells report notes that not a single measurement of any of the New England footballs reflected a PSI reading of 10.1. In fact, only one measurement of one football was as low as 10.5 PSI.

 

The Wells report also points out that Gardi’s comments about the Colts’ game balls was not accurate. On one of the two gauges used to test the footballs, THREE of the four Colts balls tested were UNDER the limit of 12.5 PSI."

 

Did some checking, Colt's balls were all within the accepted range. NONE of the Pats were:

 

Let’s look at what we know:

 

Jim McNally, often calling himself the “deflator”, took all game balls for both teams into a locked bathroom. Said he was using the urinal. There was no urinal in that bathroom.

 

McNally was all of a sudden quite popular with Brady when the story broke. Texts, calls and a personal meeting with Brady, that had never happened in Brady’s entire career.

 

McNally received all kinds of signed gifts.

 

From the report:

• "All 11 of the Patriots game balls tested measured below the minimum pressure level of 12.5 pounds per square inch ("psi") allowed by Rule 2... The four Colts balls tested each measured within the 12.5 to 13.5 psi range." Scientific studies were conducted that determined a 0.4 percent chance "that the difference in average drops between the teams occurred by chance."

 

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck ....

 

That also comes from the report...

What's stupid is it was not anywhere near necessary. While the game was close at half the Pats blew the Colts away using legit balls in the second half. Shoot, if they had used them in the first half they might have hung 60 on them.

That also comes from the report...

 

Yes, proving the Colts were operating with legitimate balls and the Pats were not.

Yes, proving the Colts were operating with legitimate balls and the Pats were not.

 

Umm...What part of the following proves that the Colts were operating with legitimate balls?

 

"The Wells report also points out that Gardi’s comments about the Colts’ game balls was not accurate. On one of the two gauges used to test the footballs, THREE of the four Colts balls tested were UNDER the limit of 12.5 PSI."

Umm...What part of the following proves that the Colts were operating with legitimate balls?

 

"The Wells report also points out that Gardi’s comments about the Colts’ game balls was not accurate. On one of the two gauges used to test the footballs, THREE of the four Colts balls tested were UNDER the limit of 12.5 PSI."

 

Am I misreading the official investigation report where it says the Colts balls were 12.5 to 13.5 with 12.5 being the minimum. You seem to be quoting from something else?

If the investigators had the cell phones of the other two people involved, why do they need Tom Brady's phone?

Am I misreading the official investigation report where it says the Colts balls were 12.5 to 13.5 with 12.5 being the minimum. You seem to be quoting from something else?

 

What I'm quoting is an article that's information is coming directly from the Wells report. 3 of the 4 Colts footballs tested were underinflated.

What I'm quoting is an article that's information is coming directly from the Wells report. 3 of the 4 Colts footballs tested were underinflated.

 

Why the difference between this and what is stated in the official report?

 

So 1 of the 2 gauges had Colt's balls underinflated and both of the gauges had all the Pats balls underinflated. So in that case it's a which gauge do you want to believe while in the Pat's case there is no issue. Also, since the Pats guy took ALL the balls for both teams that tends to weed out any Colts involvement, wouldn't it?

^As far as I'm aware, each team is responsible for their own footballs.