If a coach sits in a recruiting meeting and says, "I have this great running back. By the way, he runs a five flat 40." he will lose all credibility and be fired. He's a great high school player but that time makes me question his ability at the running back position for the next level.

 

Okay here is my point. Say a kid ran 5.08 like that young man did, do you really think that means he can't play at the next level? I disagree. I brought up a young man earlier that ran 4.37 at BOTW, he then ran 4.87 at the Rivals combine. This same young man has 4.35 on his HUDL account and 4.38 on a different recruiting site. At the end of the day this player has 12 scholarship offers to date and 10 of those are from BCS schools. So 4.87 to 5.08 is not such a huge difference that he isn't going to get evaluated by recruiters at the power conferences or smaller conferences. Some people put more stock into the numbers than others, but it doesn't always translate into a better player at the high school or collegiate level. I heard a recruiter say that these combines are a glorified "Underwear Olympics". Everybody can look good in shorts and a cut off but you can find some of the kids with great times riding the bench at high schools all over this country.

 

Randall Cobb was a 2 star who now looks like pro bowl player each season. JaMarcus Russell had the greatest pro day in quarterback history and he's not even in the league anymore. Teddy Bridgewater had a horrible pro day and then won Rookie of the Year. What I am trying to say is don't think because he ran 5.08 that he ruined his chances at playing on Saturdays. One performance or time at a combine doesn't make or break you.

If a coach sits in a recruiting meeting and says, "I have this great running back. By the way, he runs a five flat 40." he will lose all credibility and be fired. He's a great high school player but that time makes me question his ability at the running back position for the next level.

 

I disagree,,, times do account for something but it is a players' body of work that will get him to the next level. IMO a players' ability to be an impact in game situations is key. What are his stats over time and is it consistent year over year. Its true you can't coach speed or size,, but just because you have it does not mean it will necessarily transfer to being and impact player on the field. With that being said, if it comes down to who gets the offer,, all things being equal,,you go with the bigger faster kid.

The Cooper kids that I thought was pretty fast didn't have good times either. I am pretty sure Dillon had the best time out of all the NKY kids that showed up.

 

Nathan Brown 5.22 40

Dante Hendrix 5.12 40

Marcus Watson 6.02 40

Glad you threw a linemen on there lol. Not one of those 3 are rb's. You have 2 kids who will be competing for QB with Hendrix possibly being the QB this year and a OL-DL lol. Glad to see Cooper's linemen can run like Powell lol.

 

You thinking they were pretty fast explains a lot to us about your player evaluations. It all makes sense now.

A 40 time really doesn't mean anything in football how often does a player run 40 yards? Usually during a play a kid runs 10 yards.

They run 40 yards in a game a lot more than they ever run between cones lol. So now you discredit any drill your SK boys don't do very well in.

I disagree with you. Top 20 in the cone drill also a good time in the shuttle. I guess we will see how it works out.

Again, how often do they run a shuttle during a game? Zero. You are so quick to dismiss what scouts look at the most becaise your SK boy didn't do very well and claim they don't run 40

yarfd during games yet you brag about the cone and shuttle? Lol

 

Do you even know who and why the 40 was started? Paul Brown was the first coach to time the 40 and it was because he said on kick offs a player would usually run about 40 yards downfield in coverage and the faster the better to prevent big returns.

 

Somyou ou see their are several times a game a player will run 40.

Glad you threw a linemen on there lol. Not one of those 3 are rb's. You have 2 kids who will be competing for QB with Hendrix possibly being the QB this year and a OL-DL lol. Glad to see Cooper's linemen can run like Powell lol.

 

You thinking they were pretty fast explains a lot to us about your player evaluations. It all makes sense now.

 

In no way am I knocking these kids I have seen them play they are fast. Hendrix returns kicks for Cooper.

so do you believe/trust the laser times ?

 

Last summer our Running back ran a 4.68 laser time at Kentucky, then a couple of weeks later ran a 4.63 laser time at UC. Better day or ?. I believe they are more accurate than hand times.

I disagree,,, times do account for something but it is a players' body of work that will get him to the next level. IMO a players' ability to be an impact in game situations is key. What are his stats over time and is it consistent year over year. Its true you can't coach speed or size,, but just because you have it does not mean it will necessarily transfer to being and impact player on the field. With that being said, if it comes down to who gets the offer,, all things being equal,,you go with the bigger faster kid.

If we are talking d1 full ride. It's size/speed and body of work. Having speed or size is what puts you on the coaches recruiting board. you have to fit that mold. it's like being the best basketball center at 6'5. In HS you scored 20 ppg 10 reb. But your not going to get a D1 offer at that height. But a 7'0 center that only scored 10 a game will.

#1[/url'> fan;5490392]In no way am I knocking these kids I have seen them play they are fast. Hendrix returns kicks for Cooper.

Again if you knew or even read what was stated earlier by yours truly or Mr Sixer and others you would realize speed is isn't the #1 thing. Just because you are fast doesn't mean you can play. Same goes for not being the fastest. There is a reason Hendrix returns kicks and it isn't because he is the fastest, it's because he is the best at that.

So with all of this talk, if we had to make a guess who would you guys say the fastest rb in NKY is??

So with all of this talk, if we had to make a guess who would you guys say the fastest rb in NKY is??

 

Fastest NKY would be Cameron Barrett, Dixie

Fastest KY would be Quinton Baker or Devin Gentry

Fastest NKY would be Cameron Barrett, Dixie

Fastest KY would be Quinton Baker or Devin Gentry

 

 

Are you sure about that?

Well I'm just gonna put my opinion and say Jake Smith is. Again, that's just my opinion.

Are you sure about that?

 

I'm pretty confident in my statement. I am a fan of Smith (NCC), but have not seen him run in the track environment like the others.

 

The 100M is different than the 40yd dash because it skews to those with a faster top end rather than an explosive, quick runner, but Barrett's time in the 100 is just too much faster than the others to have me even consider them. Closest RB I have seen to him in time this year is the Freshman Ryle RB Chisolm and Dylan Hampton of SK.

Fastest NKY would be Cameron Barrett, Dixie

Fastest KY would be Quinton Baker or Devin Gentry

Love the Barrett kid and can't wait to see what he does this year.