December 11, 201411 yr Eric Holder, IRS officials advised black ministers | The Daily Caller! Its stuff like this that irks me. 1 sided.
December 11, 201411 yr Eric Holder, IRS officials advised black ministers | The Daily Caller! Its stuff like this that irks me. 1 sided. The difference is that when the previous Attorney General and IRS would advise white ministers it wasn't newsworthy or frowned upon.
December 11, 201411 yr The difference is that when the previous Attorney General and IRS would advise white ministers it wasn't newsworthy or frowned upon. There inlies the question, did a white attorney general in recent times do this? If so then what Eric Holder did is fine, if not then thats where I think it causes problems with one race seeing it as a special treatment or discrimination. Even so the IRS doing this and going after Tea Party or other conservatives isnt right.
December 11, 201411 yr The last AG. Mark Filip, I googled him for help with white chuches and voting. Nothing pops up. Michael Mukasey, same, I got nothing Peter Keisler, nothing either I quit looking because I cant find where it has been done, now whether or not it made new is another thing, but if it happened Im sure it would have.
December 11, 201411 yr The last AG. Mark Filip, I googled him for help with white chuches and voting. Nothing pops up. Michael Mukasey, same, I got nothing Peter Keisler, nothing either I quit looking because I cant find where it has been done, now whether or not it made new is another thing, but if it happened Im sure it would have. Since when is it news when white people in power help white people in power? Why would it be newsworthy? Even if they did help any churches why is it so bad to tell people how to follow the law?
December 11, 201411 yr Since when is it news when white people in power help white people in power? Why would it be newsworthy? Even if they did help any churches why is it so bad to tell people how to follow the law? Nothing wrong with it. But there is more that could have been done.
December 11, 201411 yr Since when is it news when white people in power help white people in power? Why would it be newsworthy? Even if they did help any churches why is it so bad to tell people how to follow the law? It would be newsworthy because the DEMS would be crying race card and they control the media. If they helped churches for the right reason, then yes. But they didnt, they did it strictly for politcal agenda and thats it. you cant tell me that these churches need help like that, it was to help the polical agenda and thats it. That is why it bothers me. I dont recall them going to a white church and doing it, why not? If they did I'm sure it would be great press to show racial equality, and the media would have been all over that to help Obama Adm look even better. but I never saw it. Thats the problem, if your doing it for one, do it for the other. It isnt the helping a church, its why they helped the church.
December 11, 201411 yr It would be newsworthy because the DEMS would be crying race card and they control the media. If they helped churches for the right reason, then yes. But they didnt, they did it strictly for politcal agenda and thats it. you cant tell me that these churches need help like that, it was to help the polical agenda and thats it. That is why it bothers me. I dont recall them going to a white church and doing it, why not? If they did I'm sure it would be great press to show racial equality, and the media would have been all over that to help Obama Adm look even better. but I never saw it. Thats the problem, if your doing it for one, do it for the other. It isnt the helping a church, its why they helped the church. The way I read it in the article the help was available to all of the churches. I'm thinking a large percentage of white churches already know the laws and how to keep their non profit status. In my experiences the white churches are ran like businesses and the black churches aren't normally anything like the white churches. I'm having a hard time believing you are this naive on this issue. Everything involving politicians is political. This issue is much ado about nothing IMO. Black politicians politicking with black ministers???? Nooooooooo, say it ain't so. :lol2:
December 11, 201411 yr The way I read it in the article the help was available to all of the churches. I'm thinking a large percentage of white churches already know the laws and how to keep their non profit status. In my experiences the white churches are ran like businesses and the black churches aren't normally anything like the white churches. I'm having a hard time believing you are this naive on this issue. Everything involving politicians is political. This issue is much ado about nothing IMO. Black politicians politicking with black ministers???? Nooooooooo, say it ain't so. :lol2: I'm so lad to have a good conversation with you, I'm not done on this though and when I get an opportunity I have some more to add. And I'm sure most will think it but it really isn't a white/black thing, it's a being equal thing and the dirty politics being brought into churches.
December 11, 201411 yr I'm so lad to have a good conversation with you, I'm not done on this though and when I get an opportunity I have some more to add. And I'm sure most will think it but it really isn't a white/black thing, it's a being equal thing and the dirty politics being brought into churches. And you know the feeling is mutual. I especially love that I can keep it all the way real and you don't get mad you just ask more questions. We need to have a beer summit sometime. :lol2:
December 11, 201411 yr I'm so lad to have a good conversation with you, I'm not done on this though and when I get an opportunity I have some more to add. And I'm sure most will think it but it really isn't a white/black thing, it's a being equal thing and the dirty politics being brought into churches. Unfortunately, politics on both sides of the aisle (clever, no?) being brought into churches isn't anything new.
December 12, 201411 yr And you know the feeling is mutual. I especially love that I can keep it all the way real and you don't get mad you just ask more questions. We need to have a beer summit sometime. :lol2: I'd have to sneak out for a beer summit, wife controls my life, it's pure hell when I screw up, which is actually what I need.
December 12, 201411 yr I'd have to sneak out for a beer summit, wife controls my life, it's pure hell when I screw up, which is actually what I need. Happy wife. Happy life.
December 12, 201411 yr The way I read it in the article the help was available to all of the churches. I'm thinking a large percentage of white churches already know the laws and how to keep their non profit status. In my experiences the white churches are ran like businesses and the black churches aren't normally anything like the white churches. I'm having a hard time believing you are this naive on this issue. Everything involving politicians is political. This issue is much ado about nothing IMO. Black politicians politicking with black ministers???? Nooooooooo, say it ain't so. :lol2: I have a hard time thinking that the black churches dont have some person in there that understands the rules of this stuff. Especially the big type churches, Im sure the ones Holder went to arent some rural church like mine. I just dont like how the IRS is allowed in there to help but turn around and have this huge scandal on tea party and conservative groups. Which are mostly white Im guessing. Its not the blacks helping the blacks, its the whole arrogance and contradiction of it all by the gov and IRS. I know how slavery is brought up a lot, but I nor any generation in my family I know of ever owned a slave. How can I be sorry for something I never did or know anyone who ever did it. I do think the general thought by most whites is slavery was a long time ago and no one alive now had anything to do with it, so lets move on and quit talking about it. Thats my guess. I also had no life during the civil rights things in America from 1970s down, so I really have no experience with it, but I never had anything to do with being a white racist store owner who didnt serve blacks because its before my time, I know a lot are still alive and feel resentment (Hank Aaron) but it aint me, I didnt do it and had no control over it, so Hank shouldnt feel that way about me. I also dont think Obama should open his mouth about the things that have happened. If Im POTUS and a black guy kills a white guy or vice versa, I dont address it, I have bigger issues like killing terrorist and solving world problems. Those killings are going to happen everyday, because a different color kills a different color dont make it racist. I dont know why the hell everyone cant just get along, our blood is same color (blue) and everyone has enough sense to stop the stupid stuff if they want to.
December 12, 201411 yr I dont know why the hell everyone cant just get along, our blood is same color (blue) and everyone has enough sense to stop the stupid stuff if they want to. NO! I'm RED! Blue would make me a Cats fan, and I REFUSE!
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