November 18, 201411 yr One word: sterilization. I know it sounds harsh, but if you are going to go around and impregnate one woman after another and NOT offer any sort of assistance financially or otherwise, then snip snip. Lots to overcome there. Punitive sterilization has been illegal in the U.S. since the 1940s.
November 18, 201411 yr Lots to overcome there. Punitive sterilization has been illegal in the U.S. since the 1940s. Any precedent for giving it as a "pick one" kind of option, to be chosen by the defendant? As in: go to jail, or go through chemical castration.
November 18, 201411 yr Any precedent for giving it as a "pick one" kind of option, to be chosen by the defendant? As in: go to jail, or go through chemical castration. I know that there are a couple of places where judges have signed off on it as part of a plea deal. I think any state trying to put it on the books would have trouble. Once people started understanding what the Nazis were up to over there in the 1940s, an American populace that had previously been head over heels for the idea of forced sterilization suddenly got a lot more uncomfortable about it. The court cases at the time reflect that popular discomfort.
November 18, 201411 yr I know that there are a couple of places where judges have signed off on it as part of a plea deal. I think any state trying to put it on the books would have trouble. Once people started understanding what the Nazis were up to over there in the 1940s, an American populace that had previously been head over heels for the idea of forced sterilization suddenly got a lot more uncomfortable about it. The court cases at the time reflect that popular discomfort. Makes sense. I will say...I think chemical castration should still be a legitimate penalty for repeat sex offenders.
November 18, 201411 yr Makes sense. I will say...I think chemical castration should still be a legitimate penalty for repeat sex offenders. I think even death is too good for them; especially for those who harm children.
November 18, 201411 yr All kidding aside what are each of these women going to get each month? Maybe $50? With 25 kids these women wouldn't get any "standard of living" and at $50 each that is $1250 for the month. And like Q11 said, the couple of women that were interviewed recently went to a party at his club. LOL What I think happened is this guy is a player, the majority of these women thought he had money and attempted to cash in with a baby. Sometimes you get the bear, sometimes he gets you.
November 18, 201411 yr IMO, the guy has two choices: sterilization or castration. And...he still should be in jail for not paying child support. Because that will get the child support paid.
November 18, 201411 yr ...and who is going to end up paying for these kids?!? Us, of course. Hopefully the mothers.
November 18, 201411 yr Because that will get the child support paid. True, it won't, but it is a consequence. What are the consequences now? Garnishment, which just means more cost to the government chasing the people around..then when they get found, they leave and go to another job....I have seen that in spades as an employer. Does it bring back a murdered person when the murderer is found guilty and jailed or executed? Maybe prevents another one.
November 18, 201411 yr True, it won't, but it is a consequence. What are the consequences now? Garnishment, which just means more cost to the government chasing the people around..then when they get found, they leave and go to another job....I have seen that in spades as an employer. Does jail really make sense in this case? If the goal is money it makes zero sense. This would purely be for punishment.
November 18, 201411 yr Does jail really make sense in this case? If the goal is money it makes zero sense. This would purely be for punishment. I edited my post to elaborate a bit further. Putting a person in jail won't get the bill paid nor will jailing or executing a murderer bring back the victim's life. However, it prevents or reduces the chance of another, AND yes absolutely it is punishment for failure to pay. Irresponsible people don't pay child support because they can get away with it.
November 18, 201411 yr Author I think the guy needs to be imprisoned for flagrant non-support. His tax returns and business need to be audited severely. How is he driving around in luxury cars, buying $250 bottles of Hennesy and wearing designer clothes but can only pay $50 a month. On a side note, there is a guy I know who is a single father raising a kid he adopted. The child's father has like 4 other kids that he does not take care of and he has been in and out of jail the past 15 yrs. He showed me a court ordered child support check that he gets from the guy....it was for $1.14....yes it is One Dollar and 14 cents per week. I know the father does Concrete work under the table and makes more which is even more ridiculous.
November 18, 201411 yr I think the guy needs to be imprisoned for flagrant non-support. His tax returns and business need to be audited severely. How is he driving around in luxury cars, buying $250 bottles of Hennesy and wearing designer clothes but can only pay $50 a month. On a side note, there is a guy I know who is a single father raising a kid he adopted. The child's father has like 4 other kids that he does not take care of and he has been in and out of jail the past 15 yrs. He showed me a court ordered child support check that he gets from the guy....it was for $1.14....yes it is One Dollar and 14 cents per week. I know the father does Concrete work under the table and makes more which is even more ridiculous. I was saying 50 per child for a monthly total of 1250. I believe the news report said he doesn't have anything in his name so according to Uncle Sam he doesn't make very much money. That is the other thing, with what is probably a very small income, each of the kids would probably only get 10 or 20 a month. In other words, this guy is extra stupid and needs a very good lawyer.
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