Spot on. They tend to thing High School coaches are clueless they can teach the game just not size speed. This is my stance they know what fits the mold and won't beak it often.

 

Speed can be improved drastically with training. Ask anybody in Track.

 

Generally , D1 recruits are qualified by measureables and the only one you cannot impact through training is height. Speed, agility and flexibility can all be improved with training. It is just a matter of how hard do you want to work. In fact, skill is almost irrelevant.

Speed can be improved drastically with training. Ask anybody in Track.

 

Generally , D1 recruits are qualified by measureables and the only one you cannot impact through training is height. Speed, agility and flexibility can all be improved with training. It is just a matter of how hard do you want to work. In fact, skill is almost irrelevant.

Look at basketball. You can be a great HS player a 6'5 center score 20 a game but not at the D1 level. They will take a 6'10 project over the better shorter player.

Speed can be improved drastically with training. Ask anybody in Track.

 

Generally , D1 recruits are qualified by measureables and the only one you cannot impact through training is height. Speed, agility and flexibility can all be improved with training. It is just a matter of how hard do you want to work. In fact, skill is almost irrelevant.

 

What event(s) in track are you talking about and how how much improvement are you talking?

It's quite obvious that they are made, because you can be born the most athletic kid in the world, but if you can't MAKE the grades that qualify you for a DI program, you play lower level.

Most are born with some or a lot of talent . However, it's how you hone that ability that helps you to the next level be it D1, II, III, etc.

 

I agree,, you can take take all the supplements,, speed training,, lift weights,, perfect diet,, and whatever else the new fad of the day appears to be,, but of you do not have natural speed,, size and ability it means nothing

What event(s) in track are you talking about and how how much improvement are you talking?

 

Sprinters do training movements that involve sprinting with resistance such as parachutes or sand bags. They also do special flexibility exercise that are specific to speed training. These movements are not common in football conditioning programs (to my knowledge).

Speed can be improved drastically with training. Ask anybody in Track.

 

Generally , D1 recruits are qualified by measureables and the only one you cannot impact through training is height. Speed, agility and flexibility can all be improved with training. It is just a matter of how hard do you want to work. In fact, skill is almost irrelevant.

 

I totally disagree with this,, the biggest snake oil being sold out there is "speed training". There is nothing that is going to make a slow kid faster. If so, the fast kids would start doing it as well

I totally disagree with this,, the biggest snake oil being sold out there is "speed training". There is nothing that is going to make a slow kid faster. If so, the fast kids would start doing it as well

 

I think the truth is someplace in between what you and bballguy are saying. I certainly believe you can improve speed and quickness, but to suggest you can improve anything more than incrementally is tough for me to believe.

I totally disagree with this,, the biggest snake oil being sold out there is "speed training". There is nothing that is going to make a slow kid faster. If so, the fast kids would start doing it as well

 

Speed training improved my 300 lb nephew's 40 time from 5.9 to 5.4 in 3 months. The training was recommended by multiple D1 position coaches and, for my nephew, it worked very well.

You still have to have some sort of God given talent in there.

 

Tell ya kids that can't be fixed & that's those who when they are just standing and/or squat down.....if their feet start looking like they are pointing to the east and west...forget about it (your feet are naturally going to go out SOME, but). As in, forget about them contributing in HS, let alone college.

Born, takes some polishing to keep em that way or get them looked at, but most the division one kids I have seen are god given.

The answer to this question is made murky by lumping all D1 levels together. The answer is different if we are talking about BCS conference athletes vs FCS athletes. Someone with the height and marginal athleticism could be made into an FCS athlete. Folks playing BCS D1 ball do not look like they are descended from human beings.

Speed training improved my 300 lb nephew's 40 time from 5.9 to 5.4 in 3 months. The training was recommended by multiple D1 position coaches and, for my nephew, it worked very well.

 

I would bet that's close to being a record! Did he lose weight, getting in shape otherwise (lifting, running, etc). Are you telling us he got up off the coach one day, said he wanted to be faster and went to the speed doctor and in 3 months came back 5 tenths faster? I actually could maybe see that with a large high school kid that has never been taught to run properly. But after that, he won't make significant strides if he keeps taking the training. He just had no idea how to run. I could have probably taught him that. With what you're saying and speed training is that relevant, he should continue to make drastic strides right?

 

Teaching kids how to run is really the only benefit of speed training, until you get to the point of splitting hairs between one D1 player and another. I agree with Oldbird, it's somewhere in between the two answers. Once you actually know how to run, the gains are very minimal. But I do agree can be affective when splitting hairs between two elite athletes. But I would never say speed training helps you make significant strides. You nephew had the speed in him all along (natural), he was just taught how to bring it out. I doubt the speed training itself did that much improvement.