You eating that raccoon meat?

 

No all we do is let the dogs work and tree it. Then if the Coon decides to fight the dogs then its on. If not we leave.

I have seen many a coon whip a dog.

 

I do Coyote hunt and kill them for sport. They are bad news to farmers, kids, dogs.

Im dead serious. It does tick me off to see an animal like that killed. They are so beautiful. I squirrel, rabbit, deer, coon, bird hunt. But these types of animals are to me are just so awesome. I hate to see it just killed like that. I guess I feel it is a way back to the old days when bears roamed the wilderness and were plentiful.

I just have different feelings towards this type of animal.

 

Since cows are ugly, you are OK eating a cheesebuger?

I've seen a few bear hunts on cable hunting channels and they make me sick when….some yahoos throw a bunch of donuts, maple syrup, and other candy in a barrel and lay in wait in a tree stand 20' plus in the air to shoot a bear from less than 30 yards away regardless of the weapon.

 

This guy stalked a grizzly on the ground while hunting for moose. He very easily could have been mauled, charged, etc…completely different story from the above candy bear hunt from a tree scenario and it appears he was licensed, permitted to and honestly has more guts than most we'll all ever know. I respect all sides of the fence on this one. The last animals I would hunt for survival would be a moose or grizzly. This guy hunted both whether he could get food from the grocery or not. Please note, moose kill people as well and are to be respected.

 

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Yes, grizzlies are majestic and this guy has a majestic pair of you know whats!

 

I get what your saying about how they bait bears and I personally wouldn't hunt that way. That said is it really any different then sitting over a 1/4 acre food plot or next to an oak tree or next to the only water hole in a 5 mile radius? I know it feels different on the surface but in reality I don't think it really is.

Hunting has been and is a part of my culture and heritage. I make no apologies to anyone about my hunting. I do eat everything I kill. There is a "sport" factor involved, but mostly because we no longer do sustainment hunting as a general rule. The Motor City Madman is an exception to this rule.

 

In many cases, if no natural predator exists for a particular species, you run into all kinds of problems. Ask anyone in Ft Thomas about the deer lounging in their yard…yes, cool to look at, but in the long run a really bad deal overall.

 

Eat what you kill, with the exception of predatory animals like coyotes, and I have no problems.

Since cows are ugly, you are OK eating a cheesebuger?

 

I do veggie burgers

 

Cows aint ugly.

Since cows are ugly, you are OK eating a cheesebuger?

 

You didn't ask me, but I will throw in an opinion. I eat meat, not everyday, but nonetheless I had to think about my justification for eating beef or pork and not a wild animal.

 

The distiction for me is (and it is all points collectively not individually):

 

1) The beef and pork are raised to the slaughter so to speak....fed, held in captivity...not foraging and competing for food in the wild.

2) Domestic beef and pork slaughter is regulated and humane (although there are opportunities for vast improvements).

3) I don't see hunting and shooting either with gun or bow as humane although some people are very good shots.

4) I live next door to a herd of cows, and I would have trouble killing them if I had to do it myself.

 

Question back to hunters. If you need to shoot something, not that I condone it, why not just shoot cows? :lol2: Just kidding.

 

Lastly, I will mention, I know that there are, and included in our posters, many very responsible hunters, and including those who I am aware also create wildlife habitats which bolster the survivability of many species, so I would have a hard time criticizing their right to hunt.

Did it have a bald backside?

To clarify, when I said "trophy hunter", I meant someone who just kills without any regard for the meat.

 

I consider myself a trophy fisherman (I'm always after the big ones) but I still eat the meat.

I do veggie burgers

 

Cows aint ugly.

 

I guess you don't own leather shoes either?

You didn't ask me, but I will throw in an opinion. I eat meat, not everyday, but nonetheless I had to think about my justification for eating beef or pork and not a wild animal.

 

The distiction for me is (and it is all points collectively not individually):

 

1) The beef and pork are raised to the slaughter so to speak....fed, held in captivity...not foraging and competing for food in the wild.

2) Domestic beef and pork slaughter is regulated and humane (although there are opportunities for vast improvements).

3) I don't see hunting and shooting either with gun or bow as humane although some people are very good shots.

4) I live next door to a herd of cows, and I would have trouble killing them if I had to do it myself.

 

Question back to hunters. If you need to shoot something, not that I condone it, why not just shoot cows? :lol2: Just kidding.

 

Lastly, I will mention, I know that there are, and included in our posters, many very responsible hunters, and including those who I am aware also create wildlife habitats which bolster the survivability of many species, so I would have a hard time criticizing their right to hunt.

 

Legit post!

I've seen cows butchered by local farmers. It starts with a bullet to the head. Almost every part of the cow is used, pretty impressive to see how the animal is processed.

What is your take on hunting turkey? You can buy one from Tewes or can take your chance in the woods. Several other wild game can be harvested on farms as well.

Bird brain referenced the deer in Fort Thomas. The deer population is getting out of control. When I started hunting you were limited to one buck over the course of a week. Now you can take a buck and as many does as wanted (with permit) in most counties over the course of 3+ weeks. Dept. of Wildlife does a good job managing the population as best they can.

As for the Grizzly in question. My brother in law went to Alaska and wanted to borrow a gun. I offered him my .45 cal pistol. He turned it down and wanted to use my 45/70 rifle instead. He was told the .45 would not do the job. He took the rifle as protection only. Those bears are on the top of the food chain.

I guess you don't own leather shoes either?

 

Fake leather, I buy plastic, wear flip flops, or go barefoot.

Fake leather, I buy plastic, wear flip flops, or go barefoot.

 

I can see you in Pleather.

A somewhat related aside....Whenever people talk about hunting, specifically for deer, I think of the scene in My Cousin Vinny with Marisa Tomei and Joe Pesci....:lol2: I can't be the only one, right?

If the turkey is consumed, then I can respect the hunter. If the turkey is killed for its feet or other trophy parts, then I think it is a shame.

 

From my viewpoint, we have an overpopulation of some species of wildlife because there is an overpopulation of people, and we have destroyed habitat and removed natural predators. The natural apex predators are being edged ever closer towards extinction.

 

I was in a business meeting a few weeks ago and an exec. showed a slide demonstrating that only the adaptive species are the ones that survive. I believe this, and this is why cockroaches will rule the planet some day. :sneaky:

I get what your saying about how they bait bears and I personally wouldn't hunt that way. That said is it really any different then sitting over a 1/4 acre food plot or next to an oak tree or next to the only water hole in a 5 mile radius? I know it feels different on the surface but in reality I don't think it really is.

 

Yes it is different using the bait the barrel tactics and I can't identify with the bolded above since I've never utilized those setups. The majority of the deer I've harvested have been with a bow that shoots at far less than 300 feet per second, and with arrows that are aluminum. Less than 20 yards away.

 

Feel free to use a car or smoke a cig while dropping a deer at 400 yards with the sniper equipment. We shouldn't be relegated to distances or means of harvesting. Populations suffer if hunters don't harvest deer. Shut the grocery doors and watch what happens. I simply hold folks in higher regard when they've worked harder to become a part of the woods since I can identify with the reward of more time, effort, and practice to honor the animal they are harvesting and pass that legacy onto the next generation!