February 28, 201412 yr Kansas, Nova, Cuse, and Wisconsin have all lost at home this season. That's reason enough for me to put the Shockers as a #1 ahead of them. Nova's been blown out twice. #1 seeds don't get blown out, much less at home. Wisconsin has lost at home to a team that's going to struggle to make the postseason of any kind. They're out. Syracuse lost to a team that had won 6 total games, and they did it at home. Kansas has not only lost at home, they've lost 6 games this year. #1 seeds don't belong to teams that have that many losses, especially not over undefeated teams. Duke is in the same boat. 6 losses. So I'll give you Arizona and Florida. Shockers deserve it above the rest. You lost me with a #1 seed can't lose at home. That logic tells me it's not about the totality of your season.
March 1, 201412 yr Let's get out of the theoretical and use real teams. As of today my the teams I'd have as potential #1 before Wichita: KU Arizona Duke Florida Wisconsin Syracuse Villanova Tell me why I'm wrong. Villanova? They got spanked 2 times by Creighton
March 1, 201412 yr Villanova? They got spanked 2 times by Creighton Which means I should also include Creighton ahead of WSU. Nova beat Kansas (#1 RPI on ESPN RPI). 4 Top 50 Ws (WSU has 2 ) Nova SOS is 34. Nova RPI is 4.
March 1, 201412 yr Villanova? They got spanked 2 times by Creighton So you don't have Nova ahead of WSU. Cool. That leaves 6 others I listed plus I'll put Creighton in there. Tell me where I'm wrong.
March 1, 201412 yr So you don't have Nova ahead of WSU. Cool. That leaves 6 others I listed plus I'll put Creighton in there. Tell me where I'm wrong. I'm not sure if they are all above the Shockers. At the minimum they are listed with those teams. I don't have Wisconsin in that elite group. Kansas is talented but 6 losses is a lot. I would have Florida, Arizona, and Syracuse as #1 seeds but the other is up for grabs and don't see why the Shockers couldn't get it. They proved last year they can play with the big boys.
March 1, 201412 yr I'm not sure if they are all above the Shockers. At the minimum they are listed with those teams. I don't have Wisconsin in that elite group. Kansas is talented but 6 losses is a lot. I would have Florida, Arizona, and Syracuse as #1 seeds but the other is up for grabs and don't see why the Shockers couldn't get it. They proved last year they can play with the big boys. "6 losses is a lot" is exactly my point about WSU. We're putting them as a "definite 1" because they haven't lost. We then admit they haven't played a tough schedule yet we can't get off that "they haven't lost." They don't go undefeated playing a tough schedule. You have to take their schedule into account. KU has the #1 SOS in the country and yet by focusing on the # of Ls as compared to WSU we're completely saying schedules don't matter. It's incongruent. Their resume simply doesn't stack up against the teams I listed. But it's a great story.
March 1, 201412 yr KU has 12 top 50 RPI wins. WSU has 2. KU has 16 top 100 RPI wins. WSU has 6. KU #1 SOS. WSU 113. WSU has played a grand total of SIX RPI top 100 teams. KU has played 22.
March 1, 201412 yr "6 losses is a lot" is exactly my point about WSU. We're putting them as a "definite 1" because they haven't lost. We then admit they haven't played a tough schedule yet we can't get off that "they haven't lost." They don't go undefeated playing a tough schedule. You have to take their schedule into account. KU has the #1 SOS in the country and yet by focusing on the # of Ls as compared to WSU we're completely saying schedules don't matter. It's incongruent. Their resume simply doesn't stack up against the teams I listed. But it's a great story. I never said they were a definite 1 but should be in the discussion.
March 1, 201412 yr I never said they were a definite 1 but should be in the discussion. You've given me 3 teams. Who's your 4th?
March 1, 201412 yr You've given me 3 teams. Who's your 4th? I don't have it yet. Wichita state is in the discussion along with Kansas. I think Louisville should be in the hunt as well.
March 1, 201412 yr Short memory. Remember Gonzaga was a 1 seed last season and they had a loss to their resume. The problem is not what the Shockers have done, it is that the others in consideration are not strikingly ahead of them.
March 1, 201412 yr Boys, you get to play selection committee. I've proposed all of the teams that I think should be considered. Other than Swee16 all I get is "they should be a 1 seed " or "they're #1." Sell their resume.
March 2, 201412 yr Boys, you get to play selection committee. I've proposed all of the teams that I think should be considered. Other than Swee16 all I get is "they should be a 1 seed " or "they're #1." Sell their resume. You want to add Virginia to that list of possible #1s
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