January 8, 201412 yr The fact that Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds aren't in the Hall of Fame is all I need to know about the process.
January 8, 201412 yr What did Frank Thomas do to get into the HOF and what did Jeff Bagwell do to be that close? Can someone post their stats for some of us to banter about.
January 8, 201412 yr Frank: .301 average 521 HRs 1704 RBIs complete stats here: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/thomafr04-bat.shtml
January 8, 201412 yr Bagwell: .297 BA 449 HRs, 1529 RBIs Jeff Bagwell Statistics and History - Baseball-Reference.com
January 8, 201412 yr Bagwell: .297 BA 449 HRs, 1529 RBIs Jeff Bagwell Statistics and History - Baseball-Reference.com Bagwell is also the only 1B in MLB history with over 400 HRs and 200 SB.
January 8, 201412 yr What did Frank Thomas do to get into the HOF and what did Jeff Bagwell do to be that close? Can someone post their stats for some of us to banter about. Do you really not think Thomas is worthy? Guy is one of the greatest RH of all-time, without question.
January 8, 201412 yr Bagwell is also the only 1B in MLB history with over 400 HRs and 200 SB. And he has 2 MVPs. During the Mid 90's, he was the premier first baseman in the National League.
January 8, 201412 yr Bagwell is also the only 1B in MLB history with over 400 HRs and 200 SB. HR and batting avg alone aren't enough for me. But since you've added this, I think he is worthy.
January 8, 201412 yr And he has 2 MVPs. During the Mid 90's, he was the premier first baseman in the National League. Along with a ROY, multiple (3) Sliver Sluggers, Gold Glove, 5 Top 10 MVP finishes (not counting his win), including 2 Top 3 finishes...The guy seriously won every award possible. A career OBP of .408 as well.
January 8, 201412 yr Along with a ROY, multiple Sliver Sluggers, Gold Glove, 5 Top 10 MVP finishes (not counting his win), including 2 Top 3 finishes...The guy seriously won every award possible. As a Reds fan, he scared the crap out of me like Mike Schmidt, Barry Bonds, and Pujols. He was that dominant against them.
January 8, 201412 yr As a Reds fan, he scared the crap out of me like Mike Schmidt, Barry Bonds, and Pujols. He was that dominant against them. Yep. The Astros and "the Killer B's". Biggio, Bell, and Bagwell. They owned the Reds.
January 8, 201412 yr And he has 2 MVPs. During the Mid 90's, he was the premier first baseman in the National League. I was wrong 1 MVP, and may have gotten another in '95 if he hadn't gotten hit on the hand and ended his season.
January 8, 201412 yr I can buy Frank Thomas because he had the magical 500+ homeruns. Not absolutely sold on Bagwell however. Are his numbers better than those of Tony Perez who seemed to take way to long to get in the HOF. Why does Alan Trammell not get more votes? Was he not one of the better shortstops of his time outside of Cal Ripken?
January 8, 201412 yr I can buy Frank Thomas because he had the magical 500+ homeruns. Not absolutely sold on Bagwell however. Are his numbers better than those of Tony Perez who seemed to take way to long to get in the HOF. Why does Alan Trammell not get more votes? Was he not one of the better shortstops of his time outside of Cal Ripken? Alan Trammell was always brought up in comparison to Barry Larkin. Looks like Allen needs to start working for ESPN as an analyst.
January 8, 201412 yr I can buy Frank Thomas because he had the magical 500+ homeruns. Not absolutely sold on Bagwell however. Are his numbers better than those of Tony Perez who seemed to take way to long to get in the HOF. Why does Alan Trammell not get more votes? Was he not one of the better shortstops of his time outside of Cal Ripken? Perez was a victim of the team that he was on. He, arguably, was the 4th or 5th best player on his team. Bagwell, for about 5 seasons, was the best player in the NL.
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